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High taxes be damned, the rich keep moving to California
LA Times ^ | March 11, 2019 | By George Skelton

Posted on 03/11/2019 10:31:23 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner
You can move to Nevada, where there’s no state income tax, and live off a California public pension without paying either Sacramento or Carson City.

Pensions are killing taxpayers.

61 posted on 03/11/2019 11:53:25 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Mariner
The state budget has nearly $10bil in surplus...????

what???

62 posted on 03/11/2019 11:59:13 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: WKUHilltopper

I’d say sell your illegals to other countries....ought to be a market.


63 posted on 03/12/2019 12:00:48 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Exactly. It’s as third world as you can get here. I hate that two blocks from expensive $2 m homes are depraved homeless encampments.... all over LA.


64 posted on 03/12/2019 12:02:36 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Mariner

The data in the study is from tax years 1990-2014.
Doesn’t count the new tax law.
Surprisingly, the tax increases in those years didn’t affect the rich’s choice of where to live.

This latest may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

I was in Ca as a kid. Great weather!
Back then it had a great culture too.


65 posted on 03/12/2019 12:18:32 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Mariner

So, I guess Newsome can rescind his suit to get the money for the Train to Nowhere.


66 posted on 03/12/2019 4:48:28 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Bishop_Malachi

Well, if New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, DC, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida all merged into one giant stated, they’d have the same thing.

It’d be interesting to see how much money flows through California, compared to all the states I mentioned. I think California would probably still come out on top, if just by a little since that is where most, if not all, of the cheap Chinese, etc stuff, lands after crossing the Pacific.


67 posted on 03/12/2019 4:52:07 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Mariner

Is that scam and those like it, how they’re able to fill their coffers? Doesn’t Newsome still want a billion for the Train to NoWhere?


68 posted on 03/12/2019 4:53:15 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Mariner

You are wealthy and have a going business, you bite the bullet. The state university system is still very solid. Plus you may have low property taxes due to Prop 13. You live in a gated community where your children are safe and can play in the streets with the other children..... Life can be very good.

The weather can be really great like in San Diego. You have access to ski slopes and the ocean and beaches.
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69 posted on 03/12/2019 4:59:20 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

An outdoors Wood fired PIZZA oven alert! Smart!


70 posted on 03/12/2019 5:00:29 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Texas Fossil

Around here(southern NH) the Eastern White Pine trees grow like weeds. 80-100’ tall and straight as a arrow. Before the revolution it was illegal to cut one down. King George owned them all for use in the Royal Navy as masts.
We also have a lot of eastern hemlock. Up north there is more spruce & balsam fir at higher elevation.

The predominate hardwoods are Red maple, Sugar maple(syrup), Red Oak, Paper birch, Trembling Aspen, Black Chery, Beech, White Ash. The soil around here tends to be sandy and acidic mixed with ROCKS and Granite ledge.
For example, my wife wanted me to plant a Hydrangea Tree. I dug a hole 3’ in diameter about 1 1/2’ deep. I pulled out a wheel barrow full of rocks out of that hole.

They don’t call it the granite state for nothing. That is also why you see pictures of NH with all these field stone walls. The glaciers scraped up every rock from Canada and deposited them here in New England. I can’t believe the poor farmers that came here in the 1700’s and plowed this country with oxen. There are boulders here that are literally the size of a Volkswagon that some poor pilgrim moved. When I logged my property 5 years back the guy had a problem moving some even with his excavator. Occasionally you see one they had to divert the road around because is was too big to move. There is one down the road like that. It is 15’ across. I guess that is why all the smart farmers left in the 1800s and moved to Ohio or Indiana. There is a lot more topsoil there. This area was once covered with ice a mile thick. That is until all the Asians came here with their SUVs and melted the ice :).


71 posted on 03/12/2019 6:13:22 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: dennisw

There are millions of homeowners in CA that are not wealthy.


72 posted on 03/12/2019 7:41:12 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: econjack

For anyone in California who has horses & wishes to move out, I have a rural property 35 miles east of Carson City for sale.

I will answer any questions you might have.


73 posted on 03/12/2019 9:29:43 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Impy

Public pensons, health care costs for public employees, and Medicaid.

The three financial horsemen of our fiscal apocalypse.


74 posted on 03/12/2019 9:32:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Mariner

Rich and Illegals moving into CA.

Middle Class Americans moving out of CA soon to be joined by ME.


75 posted on 03/12/2019 9:34:35 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: DEPcom

CA wanted to tax his pension because he earn it while being a resident of CA. Not sure if they are trying stuff like that still.”””

They got caught & it got stopped.

Friend of mine was a firefighter in Redondo Beach. Moved to Missouri in retirement.

He bacame one of the class action plaintiffs against California over taxing them when they didn’t li9ve in the state.

They won the lawsuit:

“Taxation Without Representation...”

None of them could still VOTE in California.

Now—California wants Illegals invaders to vote.

I call that “Representation Without Taxation” since they work for cash under the table if they work at all.


76 posted on 03/12/2019 9:36:10 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: woodbutcher1963

In San Francisco last year, the CHEAPEST house listed for sale was the size of a ONE CAR GARAGE like your Grandpa would have had. It listed for $650,000 & was on a lot with barely a 5 foot setback all around it.

I am NOT kidding.


77 posted on 03/12/2019 9:38:50 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: sheana

It was called “Taxation Without Representation.”


78 posted on 03/12/2019 9:40:04 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: dennisw

Plus you may have low property taxes due to Prop 13. “””

Many counties are adding ‘Assessments’ & Fees” to the base property tax bill which is still controlled by Prop 13.

My former neighbor in Nevada county-—about 80 miles from Sacramento—sold every California property he had & moved to Idaho when his Prop 13 taxes were about $1200 & the additional Assessments & Fees put his entire bill from Nevada County at over $3200. That was over 2 years ago.

I had a larger house than he did & mine was log. When I left in 2004, my tax bill was about $1200 then. I think it would be about $4000 now.

ALSO- Insurance companies are no longer writing fire policies for for those foothills of the western Sierra Nevada homes. The local tax bills are adding a whopping amount to your property bill to ‘fight fires. IF they get there in time, they will fight a fire. Otherwise, it is just a mopping up exercise.


79 posted on 03/12/2019 9:58:14 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: woodbutcher1963

We have a nearby rock quarry, but in general our soil is not rocky. There were no trees here when my ancestors came. Prairie grass fires and prairie dogs kept the trees down. Buffalo were still here when they came.

Last of the buffalo were killed out after the railroads came in 1907. A while later the antelope were wiped out.

Now we have lots of deer, geese, turkey, quail, dove, ferral hogs, skunks (4 legged), raccoons, possums, badgers, armadillo, many types of lizards and rattle snakes (and other varieties).


80 posted on 03/12/2019 12:37:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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