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The Two Americas Have Grown Much Fiercer
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 28, 2019 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 05/25/2019 9:55:55 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: MinorityRepublican

One side kicks the crap out of the other for 30 years. When the victim finally stands up for himself, Peggy Noonan implores everybody to calm down.

What a putz!


41 posted on 05/25/2019 10:34:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: proust

Noonan is too five minutes ago, still trying to trade on supposed conservative credentials from decades past. She’s irrelevant.


42 posted on 05/25/2019 10:34:46 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Tallguy

If a Democrat gets elected over Trump in 2020 — and it could happen given the way the Democrats game the electoral system in many states — the Democrats will strike out at us with a fury.

With 15 states giving their electoral college votes, approximately 197 votes in total, to the winner of the popular vote in the next presidential election, the game is already rigged. The larger states only need to put up more votes than the flyover country votes.


43 posted on 05/25/2019 10:35:28 AM PDT by zaxtres
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To: stanne
Ms. Noonan, you can do a lot better than that.

Once, perhaps.
Today, no...no she can't.

44 posted on 05/25/2019 10:37:13 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: JonPreston

I do not like her, either, but my sister was named Peggy, on her birth certificate.


45 posted on 05/25/2019 10:37:59 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: MinorityRepublican

Another waste of time, electrons, oxygen and energy from this loser.


46 posted on 05/25/2019 10:38:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Make Liberals Cry Again by continuing to Make America Great Again! Reelect President Trump in 2020!)
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To: Menehune56
Has anyone found a way around the WSJ paywall? Outline doesn’t work there.

Download the Tor browser and give it a try. I use it to read my local paper and it works every time. Each time you open Tor it uses a different IP address, so the newspaper website thinks you are there for the first time.

https://www.torproject.org/

47 posted on 05/25/2019 10:38:37 AM PDT by rexthecat
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To: McBuff
Thank you.

Noonan is a washed up, phony, elitist swamp-hag.

48 posted on 05/25/2019 10:55:26 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The gap between the left and right in this nation is far too wide to ever bridge. Time to split the nation, this cannot continue as is. Best to do it peacefully instead of it becoming and actual shooting war.


49 posted on 05/25/2019 11:05:53 AM PDT by Tejas Rob
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To: MinorityRepublican

Communists never quit until you are their slave. The philosophy of communism is the absolute root of America’s political problems. The communist party should be outlawed and it senior practitioners arrested and prosecuted for their subversion and sedition. Expunge them now or suffer the inevitable consequences.


50 posted on 05/25/2019 11:06:13 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Defiant
And you, Saint Peggy, sit in the middle, deploring all this ugliness and division. Please tell us, wise lady, what shall we do? It surely is not the fault of those who would end the US as we know it, right?

Right. She acts holier than thou but I think after the Bushes she must want that execrable Kasich, maybe? Yecchhhh.

Months ago I posted that Biden would enter the race as the nice, moderate fellow who can put an end to all this haranguing and shouting going on. Lies to that effect backed up by the 24 hour MSM propagandists. Nice and quiet if he gets in. Sure....

A truly stupid woman nearing 60 at work used to say during Bill Clinton---- "All this political stuff all the time. It's all too much. Just let Clinton do his job and lead the country. Can't people just be quiet and get along again?"

Me: Oh, and let your guy win everything while everyone else has no right to speak an opinion? Only your ideas will be permitted in the great arena of political discourse?"

It got worse and worse since then. Young Dems only allow their side to speak on university campuses and on social media or television. What Hell life is today.

51 posted on 05/25/2019 11:06:36 AM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finishid.)
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To: rdl6989

The left has always been fierce. Remember how they treated that earnest, barely conservative wuss, GWB?

It was failure to respond from the conservatives (theoretically, the GOP) that made them feel they could get away with it.

Incidentally, the way the Communists got power in Spain (someone mentioned the Spanish Civil War above) is that the radical leftist parties in legue with the “normal” leftist parties cheated on a set of elections, and managed to get elected to regional positions that gave them the ability to get representation at the next level. The only reason they got away with it is that the conservative parties decided to be polite and not challenge the elections.

The thing that has changed with Trump is that there is finally some opposition, and Peggy doesn’t appear to realize that we can’t go back to what she views as the good old days, when the left could say and do anything and get away with it, while we gentlemanly conservatives just made prissy noises. This has been a long time coming, and Peggy, with her aversion to conservatives (although Reagan was much more conservative than she now seems to remember) has forgotten and forgiven all on the leftist part, and now wants to blame conservatives (and even the humble GOP).


52 posted on 05/25/2019 11:08:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: a fool in paradise

The Left has in its back pocket—The Media (To tell you want to think), Hollywood (To tell you how to think) The education Mafia is.. Schools and Universities (To tell you what Not to think). The Groups of people to mobile the “Masses” ie… Womens Rights, Black Rights, Latino Rights LGBT rights.
Backed up by an endless flow of money from George Soros, Red China, Saudi Arabia, Drug Cartels, Silicon Valley plutocrats. No, the Left has more power than you think—and its all focused on tearing down Trump and his populist movement. They can win but—they are disorganized and stupid. A blundering giant. The Right is also divided and this is setting the stage for a “Fort Sumter Moment” that will start the shooting. It will be a replay of 1860-1. North vs South.


53 posted on 05/25/2019 11:08:33 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Flaming Conservative

My sister’s name is Margret and we stopped calling her Peggy when she lost her pig tails. Same with Tommy. I cringed when Tommy Thompson was introduced.


54 posted on 05/25/2019 11:10:12 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Defiant
And you, Saint Peggy, sit in the middle, deploring all this ugliness and division.

Whoa unto you, Defiant, for thou hast greatly offended. Saint Peggy sits NOT in the middle, She sits on high above us all!!

55 posted on 05/25/2019 11:13:21 AM PDT by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Didn’t read the whole thing...I don’t read Noonen, but

what she seems to be saying, without really saying it is:

THE LEFT HAS ALWAYS BEEN HOSTILE, MEAN, ARRAGONT AND OBNOXIOUS, BUT...

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE RIGHT HAS R.E.S.P.O.N.D.E.D.
We have always been docile, not answering when we were horribly insulted.

Thank God, for President Trump who has shown us the way to do it.


56 posted on 05/25/2019 11:14:51 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: proust

Well put.


57 posted on 05/25/2019 11:17:21 AM PDT by stevio (MAGA)
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To: Billthedrill
Ping.

This post links to Peggy Noonan's website that is not behind a paywall. There is a reference to Wagner that struck me.

You may remember years ago I suggested our politics is a rehash of the old Brahms-versus-Wagner argument of the 19th Century. Peggy senses something along the same line.

58 posted on 05/25/2019 11:28:39 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
There's been no change from the anti-Ameican left. But there will be if (when) they start their second civil war, and they're not going to care for it much.

59 posted on 05/25/2019 11:29:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think we are there already.

It will start after the 2020 elections. The Democrats are doing everything they can to keep Trump off the ballot in their states. Further they are engaged in an illegal conspiracy to give their electoral votes to the Democrat candidate.

After the election, even if Trump actually wins, the commierats will claim that the Democrat won. At that point you will have two people claiming to be president. A hot civil war will start soon after that.

The big issues will be which side would the military support. You would like to hope Trump. But remember, Obama spent 8 years purging the officer corps and replacing them with those who said they would support political correctness. So our officer corps is probably rotten as well.


60 posted on 05/25/2019 11:36:08 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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