1 posted on
12/09/2019 5:41:05 PM PST by
karpov
To: karpov
Donald Trump is not Richard Jewell.
2 posted on
12/09/2019 5:43:12 PM PST by
henkster
To: karpov
Local Portland news said there was nothing wrong with why the FIB conducted their investigation but there were some minor infraction in their investigation.
3 posted on
12/09/2019 5:43:59 PM PST by
Cold Heart
(.)
To: karpov
Traitor Roberts remains mute wrt HIS FISA Court?
4 posted on
12/09/2019 5:45:24 PM PST by
Paladin2
To: karpov
Did you happen to notice that Steele claims he was “favorably deposed” to Trump because he (Steele) had a close personal relationship with a member of the family? One of the networks is reporting it’s Ivanka (Yael) Kushner. See page 128.
6 posted on
12/09/2019 5:47:07 PM PST by
Blurb2350
To: karpov
Can I file deceptive and unsubstantiated documents before a court? Any court?
Nope. Straight to jail.
I think the FIB will be spending the next ten years sorting out and investigating common folks who have threatened politicians, judges, and appointed government thugs. We're not going to hear much, but we know it's real.
8 posted on
12/09/2019 5:52:45 PM PST by
blackdog
To: karpov
Definition of perjury
: the voluntary violation of an oath or vow either by swearing to what is untrue or by omission to do what has been promised under oath : false swearing
So when do we see the perp walk?
9 posted on
12/09/2019 5:57:24 PM PST by
taxcontrol
(Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
To: karpov
Is the FBI under the domain of the “Intelligence Community”?
Specifically, can the ICIG, Horowitcz, require current FBI personnel to answer his questions?
10 posted on
12/09/2019 5:58:34 PM PST by
budj
(combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
To: karpov
Inspector Generals are like the human resource arm of a company.
Human resource divisions are not there to help employees but to help the company that they work for.
Human resource departments take care of problems and protect companies!
Inspector Generals can be said to work for the same reasons.
If theres a way to say that the department didnt violate the policy or law .. that is what they will do.
Words like
bad behavior and
errors in judgment are used to describe the actions of rouge, (aka disposable employees) and are not a true representation of the agency itself.
Now that
that is out of the way, let's take a look at some reasons for why this report is very limited in scope.
The Inspector General has said that he was looking into the surveillance of a
certain person which we now know is Carter Page.
The problem is ... Carter Page was just one of Trump's campaign associates that was spied on.
(One area where Durham and Barr will dig further into)
The Inspector General is inhibited from speaking to anyone not working at the Department of Justice at the time of his questioning.
If theyve retired or been fired, he cant force them to cooperate.
(Think: James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page Et al)
And let's not forget
Kevin Clinesmith!
Clinesmith became infamous for his viva le resistance, (to Trump) while investigating the Clinton email fiasco.
The same Clinesmith who was forced off of the
Mueller Trump/Russian 'collusion' investigation after text messages showing his dislike/hatred of Trump were exposed.
If they work at a different agency or department the situation is the same and they can't be forced to cooperate with the investigation.
So now, you have an IG report with a lot of words with very little substance!
If you have followed the
Investigation into Trump from the beginning you know that there were numerous 'agencies' with their hand in the
Russian Collusion fiasco and most especially ... the Steele Dossier.
The dossier that was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC.
The dossier was
doled out by a number of agencies along with the DOJ and FBI!
(Again, those
agencies cannot be compelled to give testimony)
Remember how 'upset' the democrats became when they learned of Bill Barr's appointment as Attorney General?
I believe that they were 'upset' because they had reason to believe that he (Barr) would appoint a
Special Prosecutor to head up a real and in-depth investigation, regardless of where it led!
(The
Special Prosecutor can compel testimony from outside the agency.)
He did just that!
The Department of Justice has revealed that the probe led by federal prosecutor John Durham has become a criminal investigation due to the wrongdoing it has found.
And Finally ...
How it all began:
========================================
These are but a few of the people that the IG didn't interview.
(If I read the rules of engagement correctly)
I'd say that the
report could have looked quite different if they had been interrogated!
Peter Strzok, former deputy chief of counterintelligenceFIRED
Andrew McCabe, former FBI deputy directorFIRED
Lisa Page, former counsel to McCabeRESIGNED
James Baker, former FBI general counselRESIGNED
Bill Priestap, former chief of counterintelligenceRETIRED
James Comey, former FBI directorFIRED
Bruce Ohr, former associate deputy attorney generalREASSIGNED
Christopher Steele, former FBI confidential human sourceSteele has never been an FBI employee, but a former British spy
13 posted on
12/09/2019 6:15:46 PM PST by
justme4now
(Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
To: karpov
If they deceived the Judges, that means they did it deliberately. So what other reason would you have to deliberately deceive the Court, in order to get FISA warrants approved, than the fact that you have a bias against the person/persons you want to surveil?
14 posted on
12/09/2019 6:25:03 PM PST by
mass55th
("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
To: karpov
What you are going to see from the MSM:
“Exoneration of the FBI and FISA surveillance of Trump.”
16 posted on
12/09/2019 6:39:45 PM PST by
SaxxonWoods
(The internet has driven the world mad.)
To: karpov
"I'm not saying no one's going to jail over this, but..."
...no one's going to jail over this."
21 posted on
12/09/2019 6:51:25 PM PST by
moovova
To: karpov
So why did the ‘chicken chit’ write the report the way he did, you chicken chit?
22 posted on
12/09/2019 7:24:17 PM PST by
ldish
(Have had enough...you??????)
To: karpov
To: karpov
Yeah, found no bias.
Maybe should check the definition of bias:
bias (noun
1. A particular tendency, trend, inclination, feeling, or opinion, especially one that is preconceived or unreasoned.
2. Unreasonably hostile feelings or opinions about a social group; prejudice.
3. An oblique or diagonal line of direction, especially across a woven fabric.
4. Statistics. a systematic as opposed to a random distortion of a statistic as a result of sampling procedure.
So let see,
Mueller collusion investigation found about 24,565 errors.
Errors that benefited Trump: 0
Errors which were detrimental to Trump: 24,565
Horowitz FISA investigation found 17 errors.
Errors that benefited Trump: 0
Errors which were detrimental to Trump: 17
Clinton e-mail investigation found 14,365,972 errors.
Errors that benefited Clinton: 14,365,972
Errors which were detrimental to Clinton: 0
Statistically falls in the normal range. Nothing to see here.
27 posted on
12/09/2019 8:44:51 PM PST by
MCSETots
To: karpov
I wish to record a comment and this thread seems as good a place as any.
I see a commonality between the actions of Comey and the Horowitz report.
Comey had the audacity to appear before the nation and outline clearly why Hillary should be charged with a crime. Then he stated falsely that no prosecutor would bring such a case. There is a similarity with what Horowitz has done. Horowitz seems to have presented very clearly how the Justice Department and the FBI managed their conspiracy by "omissions" and "mistakes".
We can only hope that Barr and Durham will be the prosecutors who know a conspiracy when they see one.
To: karpov
Crossfire Hurricane vis a vis the FISA warrant was used as the basis for the Mueller witch hunt.
Where the hell is Rod Rosenstein?
30 posted on
12/10/2019 7:34:25 AM PST by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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