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More than 1,300 Veterans Given Hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19
Military.com via Yahoo News ^ | 05/23/2020 | Patricia Kime

Posted on 05/23/2020 9:10:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Roughly 1,300 patients at Department of Veterans Affairs medical facilities have received hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 since late March, according to VA Secretary Robert Wilkie.

In a letter to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-New York, this week, Wilkie said that, between Feb. 1 and April 23, the VA purchased more than 6.3 million tablets of the antimalarial drug, which was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in late March on an emergency use basis to treat the novel coronavirus.

Hydroxychloroquine is normally used to treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, and the VA dispenses roughly 1 million pills of it a month for those conditions, according to Wilkie.

The secretary said the VA purchased such a vast amount to ensure that it had a sufficient supply for patients with those diseases, as well as those with COVID-19.

"During this tracked time period, VA used about 18,000 of the tablets for COVID-19, which equates to .28%," he wrote.

Wilkie's letter was a response to Schumer's request May 10 that the VA explain its bulk purchases of the medication and use to treat veterans with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.

Hydroxychloroquine has been widely touted as a treatment by President Donald Trump, who admitted this week that he has taken it as a prophylaxis to prevent infection.

Schumer said he and several veterans groups have concerns about the use of the medication on VA patients, many of whom are older and have underlying health conditions that make them more susceptible to the drug's most severe side effect, a disruption of regular heart rhythms.

"Veterans' groups remain deeply concerned that the VA has made large purchases of this drug and appears to have administered it to veterans despite the well-known, and in some cases, fatal risks," he wrote Wilkie.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19; hcq; hcqzinc; hcqzpaczinq; hydroxychloroquine; veterans; vets
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1 posted on 05/23/2020 9:10:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

anecdotal antidote


2 posted on 05/23/2020 9:13:29 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Veterans' groups remain deeply concerned that the VA has made large purchases of this drug and appears to have administered it to veterans despite the well-known, and in some cases, fatal risks," he wrote Wilkie.

I'm assuming that none of the 1,300 veterans did die or the number of deaths would've been the focus of the article and that all of the veterans have since recovered.

3 posted on 05/23/2020 9:14:54 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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FROM THE ARTICLE:

A retrospective review of the use of hydroxychloroquine on VA patients with COVID-19 showed that 28% of veterans who received the drug died; 22% of those who received hydroxychloroquine, along with the antibiotic azithromycin, also died, while just 11% of patients in the study who received standard care died.


4 posted on 05/23/2020 9:16:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Texas Eagle

EDIT TO ADD FROM THE ARTICLE:

But the research, which was not a rigorous scientific study but simply an analysis of data, noted that the majority of patients given the medications were severely ill, on ventilators and had underlying health conditions. They were all men, mostly black, with a median age over 65 — demographics that placed them at higher risk for severe cases of the coronavirus.

Other studies of hydroxychloroquine have shown mixed results. An ongoing study at New York University’s Grossman School of Medicine found that patients who received hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc were 44% less likely to die from COVID-19.


5 posted on 05/23/2020 9:16:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Schumer is such a POS.

Can’t you just see a whole bunch of veterans asking
Schumer to rescue them.


6 posted on 05/23/2020 9:17:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Thank you. I didn't see the "read more" button.

Seems odd that that information was buried so far into the article.

28% death rate seems awfully high. But those patients only received Hydoxy, not the entire regimen. The 22% who died were administered Hydroxy and Z-pack but not zinc.

Apparently they didn't give any patients the entire package.

And the article doesn't mention what "standard care" consisted of.

7 posted on 05/23/2020 9:21:38 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since Trump stoked this controversy up again, he’s sitting on research or statistics showing how many tens of thousands of Americans have been saved by “his” drug. Trump is mid-troll on this right now. Chuckie took the bait.


8 posted on 05/23/2020 9:21:42 PM PDT by hardspunned (MAGA, now more than ever)
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if the 11% were given standard care- then obviously they weren’t sick enough to be put on HCQ according to the left who only give HCQ as a last resort- when the patient is so sick nothing will likely save their lives-

So it just stands to reason that less of the less sick people died- while more of the more severe cases died-

another point- how many more of those that died in them ore severely sick group would have died had they not been given HCQ which does sometimes help severely sick people survive?


9 posted on 05/23/2020 9:25:58 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Texas Eagle

As always, the truth is in the fine print, the specifics.


10 posted on 05/23/2020 9:28:08 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: SeekAndFind

For the 1 BILLIONTH time. Ignore all articles about studies involving Hydroxychloroquine that do not include Zinc and do not begin within 5 days of onsite of symptoms.

The proponents of this treatment are very CLEAR:
Hydroxychloroquine + Zinc within 5 days for optimum results.

It might work later (and I pray it will) but that’s NOT the protocol.


11 posted on 05/23/2020 9:28:36 PM PDT by emotionalcripple
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To: SeekAndFind

Leftist Bullshit propaganda IMO. Military.com, and Yahoo news. I don’t believe a single word of it. Probably based on that debunked VA report that came out a few weeks ago.


12 posted on 05/23/2020 9:35:25 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees)
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RE: For the 1 BILLIONTH time. Ignore all articles about studies involving Hydroxychloroquine that do not include Zinc and do not begin within 5 days of onsite of symptoms.

I don’t know, The Marseille study that Dr. Didier Raoult did with over a thousands patients that had over 91% recoveries never mentioned Zinc at all, only hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and azithromycin.

See here:

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Abstract_Raoult_EarlyTrtCovid19_09042020_vD1v.pdf


13 posted on 05/23/2020 9:37:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all so insane to play politics like this as the left does. This Corona episode shows what the left truly is and what they are capable of. I am not afraid of the left but they are truly evil and scary and are supported by millions and governments.


14 posted on 05/23/2020 9:42:53 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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From the article:Not surprising. By the time you're on a ventilator, the time to take HCQ is way past. HCQ + zinc should be taken at the first sign of illness.
15 posted on 05/23/2020 9:59:03 PM PDT by upchuck (Windows 10 is just a fancy spying machine with troublesome, mandatory updates.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not surprising with Schumer being involved. Twice as many dying with hydroxychloroquine compared to standard medical care should raise some red flags to higher authorities to investigate.


16 posted on 05/23/2020 10:16:17 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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Is that the Kapo Schuemer who works for Dr. Mengela?


17 posted on 05/23/2020 10:22:09 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of the Great King!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A retrospective review of the use of hydroxychloroquine on VA patients with COVID-19 showed that 28% of veterans who received the drug died; 22% of those who received hydroxychloroquine, along with the antibiotic azithromycin, also died, while just 11% of patients in the study who received standard care died.

But 72% got better.. 78% did.. out of this so called study!


18 posted on 05/23/2020 10:30:18 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: SeekAndFind

From reading that you might suspect that a VA hospital is the last stop on the way to the morgue.


19 posted on 05/23/2020 11:08:34 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: emotionalcripple
HCQ & ZINC!!!
I once long ago broke an FR thread by leaving out the slash close on

< big>

(lots of them). If say someone set their text to "red" but didn't close out the red tag then the rest of the post was red. Simple fix needed.

It was to make the point that every post needed to be reset to "normal" parameters which wasn't the case at the time.

Anecdotally its HCQ & zinc. HCQ allows the zinc - just a vitamin supplement - to enter cells and penetrate the virus - killing it. The Zpack is an antibiotic that helps out the lungs already affected but is associated with heart problems so - in my non-medical opinion only add that if the lungs are already filling up with blood. ZINC kills the virus.

High levels of CV-19 throughout the body? It just may be too late. President Trump is including ZINC in his 'scrip. Try to find that in the media.

From EC: "For the 1 BILLIONTH time. Ignore all articles about studies involving Hydroxychloroquine that do not include Zinc and do not begin within 5 days of onsite onset of symptoms."


You get it. I get it. I'm a doctor but not of the MD variety but I can read and have (somewhat limited ;-) powers of retention.

Studies of HCQ, omitting ZINC, are worthless and obviously designed to denigrate a simple incredibly inexpensive CURE for Coronavirus 19 (CV-19 - my abbreviation).

The omission of ZINC in studies is criminal given the anecdotal evidence.

IMHO.

EC - I hope my edit of onsite to onset was correct and just helping out the sometimes completely useless spelcheckers.

;-)


Lastly since we're approaching 350,00 deaths worldwide I think we should stop screwing around and save a lot of lives while we wait around for a vaccine from Bill Gates and George Soros. IMHO.

I know I said lastly already but lastly, there are reports that CV-19 has signs of insertion, not mutation, of HIV and MERS in the CV-19 genome, two very nasty viruses with no vaccine in sight.

Dr. Fauci has been working on an HIV vaccine for, oh, about, 37 years. That is all.

Except one last thing. If there ARE signs of HIV/MERS insertion in the CV-19 genome then its identifiable as WMD - a weapon of mass destruction which may plague us for years while the CCP of China comes up with another one. ;-(

20 posted on 05/24/2020 12:54:20 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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