Posted on 05/23/2020 9:10:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
anecdotal antidote
I'm assuming that none of the 1,300 veterans did die or the number of deaths would've been the focus of the article and that all of the veterans have since recovered.
FROM THE ARTICLE:
A retrospective review of the use of hydroxychloroquine on VA patients with COVID-19 showed that 28% of veterans who received the drug died; 22% of those who received hydroxychloroquine, along with the antibiotic azithromycin, also died, while just 11% of patients in the study who received standard care died.
EDIT TO ADD FROM THE ARTICLE:
But the research, which was not a rigorous scientific study but simply an analysis of data, noted that the majority of patients given the medications were severely ill, on ventilators and had underlying health conditions. They were all men, mostly black, with a median age over 65 — demographics that placed them at higher risk for severe cases of the coronavirus.
Other studies of hydroxychloroquine have shown mixed results. An ongoing study at New York University’s Grossman School of Medicine found that patients who received hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc were 44% less likely to die from COVID-19.
Schumer is such a POS.
Can’t you just see a whole bunch of veterans asking
Schumer to rescue them.
Seems odd that that information was buried so far into the article.
28% death rate seems awfully high. But those patients only received Hydoxy, not the entire regimen. The 22% who died were administered Hydroxy and Z-pack but not zinc.
Apparently they didn't give any patients the entire package.
And the article doesn't mention what "standard care" consisted of.
Since Trump stoked this controversy up again, hes sitting on research or statistics showing how many tens of thousands of Americans have been saved by his drug. Trump is mid-troll on this right now. Chuckie took the bait.
if the 11% were given standard care- then obviously they weren’t sick enough to be put on HCQ according to the left who only give HCQ as a last resort- when the patient is so sick nothing will likely save their lives-
So it just stands to reason that less of the less sick people died- while more of the more severe cases died-
another point- how many more of those that died in them ore severely sick group would have died had they not been given HCQ which does sometimes help severely sick people survive?
As always, the truth is in the fine print, the specifics.
For the 1 BILLIONTH time. Ignore all articles about studies involving Hydroxychloroquine that do not include Zinc and do not begin within 5 days of onsite of symptoms.
The proponents of this treatment are very CLEAR:
Hydroxychloroquine + Zinc within 5 days for optimum results.
It might work later (and I pray it will) but that’s NOT the protocol.
Leftist Bullshit propaganda IMO. Military.com, and Yahoo news. I don’t believe a single word of it. Probably based on that debunked VA report that came out a few weeks ago.
RE: For the 1 BILLIONTH time. Ignore all articles about studies involving Hydroxychloroquine that do not include Zinc and do not begin within 5 days of onsite of symptoms.
I don’t know, The Marseille study that Dr. Didier Raoult did with over a thousands patients that had over 91% recoveries never mentioned Zinc at all, only hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and azithromycin.
See here:
This is all so insane to play politics like this as the left does. This Corona episode shows what the left truly is and what they are capable of. I am not afraid of the left but they are truly evil and scary and are supported by millions and governments.
Not surprising with Schumer being involved. Twice as many dying with hydroxychloroquine compared to standard medical care should raise some red flags to higher authorities to investigate.
Is that the Kapo Schuemer who works for Dr. Mengela?
A retrospective review of the use of hydroxychloroquine on VA patients with COVID-19 showed that 28% of veterans who received the drug died; 22% of those who received hydroxychloroquine, along with the antibiotic azithromycin, also died, while just 11% of patients in the study who received standard care died.
But 72% got better.. 78% did.. out of this so called study!
From reading that you might suspect that a VA hospital is the last stop on the way to the morgue.
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(lots of them). If say someone set their text to "red" but didn't close out the red tag then the rest of the post was red. Simple fix needed.
It was to make the point that every post needed to be reset to "normal" parameters which wasn't the case at the time.
Anecdotally its HCQ & zinc. HCQ allows the zinc - just a vitamin supplement - to enter cells and penetrate the virus - killing it. The Zpack is an antibiotic that helps out the lungs already affected but is associated with heart problems so - in my non-medical opinion only add that if the lungs are already filling up with blood. ZINC kills the virus.
High levels of CV-19 throughout the body? It just may be too late. President Trump is including ZINC in his 'scrip. Try to find that in the media.
From EC: "For the 1 BILLIONTH time. Ignore all articles about studies involving Hydroxychloroquine that do not include Zinc and do not begin within 5 days of onsite onset of symptoms."
Studies of HCQ, omitting ZINC, are worthless and obviously designed to denigrate a simple incredibly inexpensive CURE for Coronavirus 19 (CV-19 - my abbreviation).
The omission of ZINC in studies is criminal given the anecdotal evidence.
IMHO.
EC - I hope my edit of onsite to onset was correct and just helping out the sometimes completely useless spelcheckers.
;-)
I know I said lastly already but lastly, there are reports that CV-19 has signs of insertion, not mutation, of HIV and MERS in the CV-19 genome, two very nasty viruses with no vaccine in sight.
Dr. Fauci has been working on an HIV vaccine for, oh, about, 37 years. That is all.
Except one last thing. If there ARE signs of HIV/MERS insertion in the CV-19 genome then its identifiable as WMD - a weapon of mass destruction which may plague us for years while the CCP of China comes up with another one. ;-(
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