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Baseball Rules Changes Will Harm The National Pastime’s Comeback
The Federalist ^ | July 11, 2020 | Christopher Jacobs

Posted on 07/11/2020 8:00:18 AM PDT by Kaslin

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41 posted on 07/11/2020 8:49:38 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Mariner
I question whether real baseball will ever return.

Many fine things will return after The Revolution fails. Not before.

42 posted on 07/11/2020 8:53:16 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: precisionshootist

At the risk of stating the obvious pro sports has become highly politicized — and monetized. That’s a complete turnoff for most people who just want to watch a pleasant diversion from their daily lives. Moreover, the commercial intrusion into every facet of these sports and the obscene salaries of its participants are reaching the point of being intolerable to watch or support.

I won’t miss any of it. There are much better, more productive and enjoyable things to do with my time.


43 posted on 07/11/2020 8:53:40 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Meatspace
"If I were a GM, I would sign Usain Bolt and put him on Second and give him the green light to steal."

And he would be thrown out like ninety percent of the time! There is a lot more to stealing a base than just speed.

44 posted on 07/11/2020 8:54:16 AM PDT by precisionshootist (ui)
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To: Treeless Branch

Time limits (if possible) between pitches

Like in Little League, if we jacked around too much at the plate the ump would say “Cmon, Batter”

I like the DH on both sides. Pitchers batting bores me

Golf should use carts . . . for at least the early holes, esp in the latter rounds.


45 posted on 07/11/2020 8:57:32 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (See St George's Rap Sheet . . . TAG PedoJoe with "DEFUND the POLICE")
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To: Kaslin

As a Braves Fan (yeah! We are keeping the name) I love of these changes.

I am tired of watching inning killing pitchers make the games take longer because they can’t hit. And putting someone on second in extra innings is great. No more 18 inning games into the morning.


46 posted on 07/11/2020 8:57:37 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: Meatspace

Meatspace.Your screen name was in today’s NYT crossword, defined as “Physical realm, in cyberpunk.”


47 posted on 07/11/2020 8:58:36 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: Kaslin

As an old fart baseball rules “purist” I admit I like the runner on second extra inning rule. It is used in the minors. I have coached with the rule in youth baseball. I find it does speed up the conclusion of the game and actually put the use of strategy in play.


48 posted on 07/11/2020 9:00:09 AM PDT by buckalfa (Remember what the dormouse said. Feed your head. Feed your head.)
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To: Alberta's Child

‘Baseball hardly “thrived” from 1873 to 1973.’

but yet it managed to become the ‘national pastime’ by all accounts...

‘It was below 9,000 per game before 1946 — which is an awful figure when you consider that TV revenue was almost non-existent in that era.’

I’m sure you’re aware that until the late 1930’s baseball was strictly an afternoon thing; you know, when most serious fans of the game were out making livings...to say nothing of the much smaller populations until the 1950’s...


49 posted on 07/11/2020 9:07:30 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Lisbon1940

Meatspace.Your screen name was in today’s NYT crossword, defined as “Physical realm, in cyberpunk.”

That’s the word.


50 posted on 07/11/2020 9:08:20 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Alberta's Child

But everyone paid attention, including kids

We collected Topps cards. Ruined our teeth with that super sugary bubble gum.

Listened to most games on the radio and watched the few televised ones

Baseball was the only game that mattered. And we all played it too, LL or sandlot.

I can barely name manes of today’s players. Back then, we all knew everybody, at least in the hometown team’s league


51 posted on 07/11/2020 9:08:33 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (See St George's Rap Sheet . . . TAG PedoJoe with "DEFUND the POLICE")
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To: dfwgator
The problem with ties is that as the season progresses, teams actually have an incentive to play for them. Welcome to European soccer. If you're playing for a tie you may as well just go home and cancel the game.

I did a quick search on the German Bundesliga standings from 2019-20. RB Leipzig played 34 games and finished with a record of 18-4 with 12 ties. If more than a third of your games end in a tie, you shouldn't even be allowed to play anymore.

52 posted on 07/11/2020 9:09:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: precisionshootist
Right. LOL.

Interestingly, MLB's all-time stolen base leader Rickey Henderson used to say he found it easier to steal third than second -- probably because nobody is holding the runner on, which means the runner can get a bigger lead from second than from first.

53 posted on 07/11/2020 9:11:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: vg0va3

How does pitchers not hitting make the games take longer? In baseball, generally more offense equals longer innings, more pitching changes, and longer games.

It will be interesting to see if the mandatory three batter minimum/end of inning limit for relief pitching ends up making the games longer or shorter.

FReegards


54 posted on 07/11/2020 9:13:02 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: dfwgator

I think at one time baseball games were allowed to end in ties. But I think that was back in the days before stadiums had lights and games were called due to darkness sometimes.

If I recall correctly it was in 1974 that the NFL started playing overtime in regular season games which were tied.

NFL games can still end in a tie if the score is tied at the end of the overtime. But very few NFL games end in ties nowadays.

There seems to be a strong desire on the part of people who Run Sports to avoid ties. I don’t follow hockey but I understand the NHL used to have many tie games before they implemented their overtime rules to try to break ties.


55 posted on 07/11/2020 9:14:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Kaslin

Death before DH!

I mean it. I will watch my Braves again once they dump the Designated Hitter...and not before.


56 posted on 07/11/2020 9:17:24 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: IrishBrigade
It was the "national pastime" because it was the first big-time professional sport. Notice how it's been surpassed by both football and basketball in terms of popularity, and will almost certainly be surpassed by soccer some time in the coming decades as well.

I’m sure you’re aware that until the late 1930’s baseball was strictly an afternoon thing; you know, when most serious fans of the game were out making livings...to say nothing of the much smaller populations until the 1950’s.

Very true. It kind of makes me wonder what the big-league owners were thinking when they set up their schedules that way.

It really does expose some of the major flaws in baseball as a big-time sport. It's always been geared toward a crowd of elderly retirees who would otherwise be out playing checkers in the park on a nice summer day -- and that is reflected in the pace of the game.

57 posted on 07/11/2020 9:18:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Exactly. As entertainment options expanded, baseball has come out on the losing end more and more often.


58 posted on 07/11/2020 9:19:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: Ransomed
How does pitchers not hitting make the games take longer?

With more offense you have more runners on base, more runs scored, longer innings, and better hitters running deep into the count more frequently. These all add up to making the game longer.

59 posted on 07/11/2020 9:20:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: Meatspace

I wasn’t familiar with the term. It was an ‘aha’ moment for me at 18 Across.


60 posted on 07/11/2020 9:20:56 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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