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Can the Electoral College be subverted by “faithless electors”? (goes beyond faithless electors -- legislature can award electors as the see fit if fraud)
brookings ^ | orig Oct 21, 2020

Posted on 11/04/2020 8:32:06 PM PST by doug from upland

(I have been talking about this possibility for several days)

HERE IS THE INTERESTING PART:

According to various scenarios, however, leaders of several swing-state, Republican-majority legislatures, using their federal constitutional authority, might appoint separate slates of electors, thereby setting up conflicts with the presumptively faithful electors certified by state executive authorities. This could happen in key states like Pennsylvania, where the governor is a Democrat but the legislature is controlled by Republicans. Legislatures might claim, for example, a fraud-riven popular vote that renders the state-certified electors unrepresentative of the legitimate popular vote. Or they might claim that the vote count is proceeding too slowly to allow the state to meet the December deadlines. Court battles would no doubt ensue—see Bush v. Gore (2000).

(Excerpt) Read more at brookings.edu ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: battle; election; electors; fight; fraud; goplegislatures; prayer; soldier; solution; war
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1 posted on 11/04/2020 8:32:06 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: LS

Waiting for a comment, Larry. If the roles were reversed, the Dems would do this in a heartbeat.


2 posted on 11/04/2020 8:32:53 PM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: doug from upland

If we lose we lose, take the loss, rebuild and win in 2022 and 2024


3 posted on 11/04/2020 8:34:22 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: doug from upland

I thought the Supreme Court ruled against it?


4 posted on 11/04/2020 8:35:16 PM PST by vigilante2 (Make liberals cry again)
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To: vigilante2

SCOTUS has made rulings about timing of vote count. They have not ruled on the power of the state legislature to award electors despite the popular vote in the state. Fraud would be a very good reason to do so.


5 posted on 11/04/2020 8:37:24 PM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Explain why you feel a Republican candidate for President would win in 2024.


6 posted on 11/04/2020 8:37:46 PM PST by Arcadian Empire
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Nonsense.

So you give this country away after a fraudulently-stolen election, Venezuela-style?


7 posted on 11/04/2020 8:38:14 PM PST by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

there won’t be anything left in 2022 or 2024.
Dems are playing for all the marbles this time.


8 posted on 11/04/2020 8:38:21 PM PST by SPDSHDW (The Biden's- Grifters on par with the Clintons and Bejing Barry. Joe's just had a Lower profile.)
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To: Arcadian Empire

we won’t win 2024, or any there after. this election is all we needed to know. Unless we pass some federal strict voter laws, we’ll never get the presidency again


9 posted on 11/04/2020 8:39:14 PM PST by SPDSHDW (The Biden's- Grifters on par with the Clintons and Bejing Barry. Joe's just had a Lower profile.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

>> If we lose we lose, take [this 2020 loss]

The political environment won’t stand still until 2022. We must continue fighting for today’s vote.


10 posted on 11/04/2020 8:44:49 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Arcadian Empire

Same reason one did in 2016, the American public gets tired of democrats.

The reason the American public voted against Trump was because of Trump overload, he is ALWAYS in the news (the media was doing this on purpose to over saturate). Trump screwed himself on Covid and those daily press briefings, he should have left the medical science to the doctors and actually did less of them. Nancy screwed him royally on the Cares act.

Hired a better and more loyal administration.

President Trump made a boatload of mistakes

But he also had a ton of policy success


11 posted on 11/04/2020 8:45:17 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: doug from upland

No more. I gotta unplug myself from the last 36 hours. I feel like I’ve been shelled. Listening to Vivaldi tonight.


12 posted on 11/04/2020 8:46:56 PM PST by Viking2002 (When aliens fly past Earth, they probably lock their doors.)
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To: doug from upland

true but a leg that went exactly opposite the pop vote would be sued.


13 posted on 11/04/2020 8:47:49 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Gene Eric

Fight what? We are probably going to lose Georgia and Arizona, we should own those states, we have a big electoral problem, Texas is becoming more competitive while blue states are getting more solid. We give up and try to go for the easy wins, which did work in the 2000’s with GWB but population shift are causing once traditional republican states to be more purple.

I am not saying Trump should not give up, but we should be prepared to lose. We didn’t do as well as we should have.


14 posted on 11/04/2020 8:50:22 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Trump.Deplorable
“Win” in 2022 and 2024 how? By electing another bucket of tired old GOP establishment politicians? We aren’t going back to 2010 or 2014 with a bunch of feckless frauds promising things that they know they can’t deliver ... while raising hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions for the RNC “because we just need to control the House, Senate and White House in order to [repeal Obamacare] [fix immigration] [balance the budget]!” ... with a bunch of jerks on Fox News cheering them on every night?

Those days are over, dude. We are not going back. This movement needs to be transformational — and Donald J. Trump is our last chance.

15 posted on 11/04/2020 8:51:20 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: doug from upland

PFFT, never going to happen. Do nothing PA state legislators, majority GOP, did nothing to stop the fraud there.


16 posted on 11/04/2020 8:51:40 PM PST by Fledermaus (Get off your fat ass Barr)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

At a minimum we want to exhaust every possible legal recourse.

That is a _minimum_ of what needs to be done.


17 posted on 11/04/2020 8:51:47 PM PST by cgbg (We shall fight on beaches, on grounds, the fields, the streets, the hills. Never surrender. WC)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

We need to take the fight to their backyard. They get 84 Electoral Votes in CA and NY without having to expend any resources. That needs to change. But the GOP lacks the will to do it.


18 posted on 11/04/2020 8:52:19 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Constitutional Amendment to adopt the KS and ME model nationwide...but that is really tilting at windmills.

Nevertheless, I will “dream the impossible dream”!


19 posted on 11/04/2020 8:55:32 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SPDSHDW

Example: California. Where Republicans have been gerrymandered, voter frauded and vote harvested to near extinction.


20 posted on 11/04/2020 8:56:12 PM PST by D Rider
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