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Can the Electoral College be subverted by “faithless electors”? (goes beyond faithless electors -- legislature can award electors as the see fit if fraud)
brookings ^ | orig Oct 21, 2020

Posted on 11/04/2020 8:32:06 PM PST by doug from upland

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To: Starcitizen

I agree. “Trump Deplorable” sounds more like Little Marco or the Jersey Shores Orca.


21 posted on 11/04/2020 9:00:12 PM PST by attiladhun2
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To: dfwgator

We need to take the fight to their backyard. They get 84 Electoral Votes in CA and NY without having to expend any resources. That needs to change. But the GOP lacks the will to do it.


I agree with this, we need to be more competitive in those states, we should be taking house seats en mass. Win senates, state legislatures, governorships, local races. Build a coalition and flip those states red.

We also need to take back the public education system as well


22 posted on 11/04/2020 9:02:15 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Trump.Deplorable
> If we lose we lose, take the loss, rebuild and win in 2022 and 2024

If it wasn't for the illegal surveillance, sham impeachment, millions of unnecessarily eliminated jobs due to a knowingly exaggerated pandemic, which would allow a felon using his son as a bagman ChiCom puppet to be CIC, I would be inclined to agree if and only if he won fair and square.

But this brazen election fraud enabled by our self appointed Media and High-Tech overlords is the last straw.

23 posted on 11/04/2020 9:02:45 PM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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To: SPDSHDW
Yep. Pack the court
Speech codes and digital censorship
Emboldened DNC brownshirts beating down dissenters
24 posted on 11/04/2020 9:05:55 PM PST by a fool in paradise (President Trump is not VP Nixon and wonÂ’t let the Democrats steal this without a fight)
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To: SecondAmendment

What are we going to do about it?

It’s easy to blame our failures on someone else

But that isn’t rugged individualism

Why haven’t we built our own media and platforms?


25 posted on 11/04/2020 9:06:59 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: dfwgator
I can’t speak for California, but in NY’s case I’m trying to figure out how the hell a GOP candidate would ever mount a campaign to appeal to those voters. The state has spent years chasing its industry and productive citizens away.

Look at the fracking issue. Upstate New York is dying, and yet the state government has consistently blocked the energy sector from making any investments there that would be a huge boon for the local economy while providing the state with a serious tax windfall as well. Meanwhile ... this has made Pennsylvania a much more “red” state because the energy sector has poured billions of dollars in private capital into western PA — to extract natural gas from the same massive Marcellus and Utica shale formations that extend north under western New York State.

What does a GOP presidential candidate do to win over voters who put a dope like Andrew Cuomo back in office every four years?

26 posted on 11/04/2020 9:08:16 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Alberta's Child

What quality of candidate runs as a Republican in New York?


27 posted on 11/04/2020 9:10:11 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

You mean we didn’t win a high enough percentage to overcome the cheating? Look around you, the cheating is huge, it is shameless.

If we do not win this, senate, house and presidency, it is over. We must end the fraud, it is now or never!


28 posted on 11/04/2020 9:12:14 PM PST by erkelly
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To: Trump.Deplorable

An honest census would take care of part of the California problem. No illegal alien should be counted in terms of determining electoral votes or congressional seats.


29 posted on 11/04/2020 9:15:20 PM PST by erkelly
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To: Trump.Deplorable; SPDSHDW

In 2024, the systemic voter fraud would be even more institutionalized than it clearly is now.

Additionally, tens of millions of illegal immigrants who are already here would be given citizenship and would vote for the Democrats who gave it to them.

Tens of millions more illegal immigrants would flood across the border and also be given citizenship.

The culture, the economy, the supply chain, and basic safety would all go to Hell and the media and the schools would all blame straight White Christian conservatives.

Censorship would be total.


30 posted on 11/04/2020 9:18:11 PM PST by Arcadian Empire
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To: dfwgator
That’s kind of my point. The best candidates from New York moved out years ago. They’re running for office in places like North Carolina, Florida and Texas.

What’s left behind is a bunch of tired old losers who’d get an ACU rating of about 35 at best (think former governor George Pataki) and “law & order” authoritarians who do poorly when they run on the national scene because they are a solution to problems most Americans don’t face (think former NYC mayor Rudy Giuliani).

In 2016 Donald Trump became the first candidate from New York to win on a national ticket (as President OR Vice President) since FDR in 1944. That’s an amazing historical fact when you consider that New York has been one of the three or four largest states in the U.S. Electoral College vote for that entire time.

It’s also worth noting that Donald Trump voted in 2020 for the first time as a resident of FLORIDA.

31 posted on 11/04/2020 9:24:52 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Trump.Deplorable

“Same reason one did in 2016, the American public gets tired of democrats.”

Those same Democrats that counted the votes *this* time and cheated? They will just creatively count the votes next time, especially if they get away with it with *everybody* seeing what they are doing.


32 posted on 11/04/2020 9:26:33 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable
> What are we going to do about it?

I think we are at the "when a long train of abuses" juncture in the history of our Nation, since we are clearly on a trajectory to authoritarianism.

33 posted on 11/04/2020 9:30:04 PM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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To: erkelly

NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD MEN TO COME TO THE AID OF THEIR COUNTRY.

IT AIN’T OVER ‘TIL IT’S OVER.
AND IT AIN’T OVER YET.

ATTACK. ATTACK. ATTACK BY PRAYER!

— — — — — — — — —

Time to Bind and Loose - Our authority to do so is here, in Mt 18:18 and 16:19 and Luke 10:19. ALSO HEBREWS 1:14.

Do not be discouraged. Now is the time.

Galatians 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Do not faint. Bind and Loose. Out Loud. Speak to our enemies in the gate. In Derision - Psalm 2.

Speak and PROCLAIM the below out loud.
Bind the spirits of FRAUD. Loose the Spirits of Truth.

DO NOT FALTER NOW!!! CRITICAL!!!!

BINDING & LOOSING

In the Name of Jesus Christ, WE bind the rulers, the strongmen, doorkeepers and all connected, related and resulting demons of ELECTION FRAUD, FALSE WEIGHTS AND MEASURES, witchcraft, Satan worship, human and animal sacrifice, black magic, witchcraft control, mind control, mind occult and the occult of, over, in and working in and through:

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND each and every state, territory, possession, parish, borough, ward, reservation, county, city, township, suburb, street, neighborhood, block, home and church. AND EVERY ELECTORAL MACHINE AND VOTE COUNTING PERSON AND ENTITY.

ESPECIALLY THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, WHICH IS NOT A PART OF ANYTHING PREVIOUSLY NAMED.

PLUS EVERY POLLING STATION, USPS STATION AND EMPLOYEE, AND ALL POLL WATCHERS, ELECTORAL WORKERS, COUNTERS, AND ALL IN AUTHORITY OVER SAME.

AND MOST ESPECIALLY, ALL PERSONS AND ALL ENTITIES HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH MASS MEDIA OF ANY SORT: TELEVISION, NEWSPAPERS, AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

we loose, in the name of Jesus, upon and into all of Satan’s children, partaking
of and planning these wicked and evil practices, the spirits of:

Confusion, Forgetfulness, Destruction; also spirits of Salvation, Adoption as Children of God (Romans 8:15) and Deliverance.

WE ALSO LOOSE THE SPIRITS OF DERISION (PS 2) AND SUBMISSION UPON OUR ENEMIES. IN JESUS’ NAME.

we ask You, Father, to put a special covering of angels over each ceremony, coven, witch and warlock,

SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING ALL THOSE PLANNING AND PERPETRATING ELECTORAL FRAUD AND SEDITION, so that no curse or demon can emerge or be sent.

In the Name of Jesus, we return to the senders all curses, vexes, hexes, spells and demons that they have already or will attempt to send out, especially all those having to do with fraud or false weights.

Father, WE ask You to send special angels to protect (Exodus 8:22, 23), hide and put a hedge around (Job 1:10; Hosea 2:6) all your children who are in law enforcement and the armed forces; and all people and laws that would be sought out to be sacrificed or to be cursed, and all who are sounding the alarm and calling out and exposing evil.

In Jesus’ Name, amen.


34 posted on 11/04/2020 9:30:16 PM PST by Norski
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To: Alberta's Child
In 2016 Donald Trump became the first candidate from New York to win on a national ticket (as President OR Vice President) since FDR in 1944.

True, Trump is the first NY-born president since FDR, but both Eisenhower (1952) and Nixon (1968) were living in New York when they ran, and were elected as New Yorkers, though neither is considered to be a real New Yorker.

35 posted on 11/04/2020 9:39:34 PM PST by x
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To: LS

Except the state Constitution specifically gives them the power.


36 posted on 11/04/2020 9:39:50 PM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: LS
I would expect a legislature to adopt an extreme measure like this in a case like PA where the results of the “popular vote” either can’t be determined or are clearly tainted by illegalities.

Frankly, this is what should have happened in Florida in 2000 instead of having the U.S. Supreme Court serve as the ultimate authority in the matter.

37 posted on 11/04/2020 9:48:06 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Fledermaus
The PA legislature didn’t need to do anything other than let the existing election laws stand. That leaves all the weight of the law on the side of the Trump campaign as it works through any legal challenges there.

The best thing they did in PA was refuse to bow to public and executive branch pressure to extend the mail-in voting deadline, allow early counting of votes, and allow a mass-mailing of ballots to all registered voters.

38 posted on 11/04/2020 9:51:33 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Trump.Deplorable

There won’t be a 2024.


39 posted on 11/04/2020 9:56:03 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: LS

And what would SCOTUS decide? Perhaps that they will not negate the legislature because the state sets its rules for electors.


40 posted on 11/04/2020 10:57:04 PM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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