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Trump-aligned 'America First' holdouts don't follow GOP in backing Ukraine
NBC via Yahoo ^ | March 20th, 2022 | Peter Nicholas and Jonathan Allen and Allan Smith

Posted on 03/21/2022 11:52:38 AM PDT by Mariner

They are a distinct minority in their own party and, for that matter, their country: Republican holdouts amid an ever-widening consensus that Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine poses a mortal threat to American interests.

A far right wing of the Republican Party tightly bound to former President Donald Trump is fighting to push the GOP toward the “America First” isolationism that underpinned his 2016 presidential bid.

For the first time since Trump’s rise, his party is pushing back.

That much was clear from the House vote Thursday on a bill ending normal trade relations with Russia as punishment for attacking Ukraine. A total of 202 Republicans joined with 222 Democrats in voting to allow the Biden administration to raise tariffs on Russia, a rare bipartisan consensus in an era of fierce polarization.

Eight Republicans voted against the measure, including Trump loyalists like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. In a speech on the House floor Thursday, Greene gave a succinct summary of an America First argument that has been getting little traction in the face of deepening sympathy for the Ukrainians’ suffering. After objecting to the abundant attention the war is getting, she said that what “real Americans care about are gas prices that they can’t afford,” inflation and security along the southern border.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: allansmith; bidensfanclub; bidenswar; chechens; chechnya; ciaagitprop; comcast; jonathanallen; nbcia; neoconsluvbiden; nevertrumpers; peternicholas; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; schwabagitprop; sorosfanclub; ukraine; zotneocons; zottherussiantrolls
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

BTTT!


41 posted on 03/21/2022 12:19:47 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Mariner

Same here.

It’s interesting what we learn through the years.


42 posted on 03/21/2022 12:22:04 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Miss you Rush!)
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To: Mariner

Leaving western allies to die at the hands of an attacking Russian army is one thing. Failing to acknowledge the fact that Russia is morally wrong to start killing its neighbors is another. This isn’t rocket surgery. There isn’t any middle ground here.


43 posted on 03/21/2022 12:22:23 PM PDT by nagant
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To: Mariner

I’m rooting for Ukraine and I want us to furnish them what they need to fight off the Russia invasion because I believe the US needs to keep its word. When we talked Ukraine into giving up their nukes we promised we would help them. I don’t want American boots on the ground but ammo, mussels, planes what ever they need except our soldiers.


44 posted on 03/21/2022 12:24:19 PM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: Mariner

russia evil! no no no ukraine biolabs evil no no no biden held back money to ukraine public lawyer to forget hunter biden investigation no no no ukraine money launderer no no no russia invadind free democratic country no no no

PHOOEY ON ALL OF THIS ... SEND THE UKRAINIANS ENOUGH “STUFF” TO BLOW L PRESENT, AND FUTURE INVADERS TO SMITHERREENS, AND NOTHING MORE!!
THEN CLEAN OUT ALL THE POLITICIANS WHO MAKE ANY MONETARY GAINS FROM UKRAINE ANYTHING!!


45 posted on 03/21/2022 12:26:08 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Mariner

Haha, we’re being manipulated. Thank our public school system and crappy, Leftist-run colleges. Nobody knows what “critical thinking” is anymore. It’s so much easier to let the TV tell us what to do and how to feel. Also, we are supposed to FEEL a lot, as opposed to thinking. (Robot voice) FEEL, FEEL, FEEL. STAY IN TOUCH WITH THOSE FEELINGS. DETACHMENT IS TREASON. DO NOT TELL ME TO REASON THINGS OUT OR THINK FOR MYSELF OR I WILL DESTROY YOU.

At least WWIII probably won’t last that long. It’ll probably be REALLY SHORT.


46 posted on 03/21/2022 12:27:47 PM PDT by Scarlett156 (What's causing that funny smell? Scientology going down in flames! )
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To: Mariner
Define "backing Ukraine." If you mean sending them Javelins, Stingers, and providing satellite intelligence, then I back Ukraine.

If you mean sending in U.S. aircraft to enforce a "no-fly zone" over Ukraine, and putting U.S. troops in Ukraine manning Patriot Missile batteries, then NO, I DO NOT back Ukraine.

You would think that after 20 years of nonesense fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, these asshats would have had enough of war for a while.

But no, the Left and the RINOs seem hell bent for leather to make Biden a "Wartime President" before the midterms.

47 posted on 03/21/2022 12:27:53 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Mariner

Media narrative distraction ALERT.

Trumps view, or that of other republicans, makes no difference. Democrats control all branches of the federal government. This is their quagmire, WW3, or whatever the outcome.


48 posted on 03/21/2022 12:28:32 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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To: bray

Yup, the guy has 95% and somehow there are “holdouts.”


49 posted on 03/21/2022 12:31:19 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: All

Politicians will do whatever it takes to keep their money laundering operation in Ukraine intact. Neocons don’t care even if it costs them the midterms they want to regain total control over the party.


50 posted on 03/21/2022 12:31:35 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: Scarlett156

>> Nobody knows what “critical thinking” is anymore. It’s so much easier to let the TV tell us what to do and how to feel.

Yes


51 posted on 03/21/2022 12:33:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Makes you wonder how many times can NeoCons be wrong but people still listen to them.


52 posted on 03/21/2022 12:33:15 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: Fury

Nope, it’s very relevant. Unless of course you simplistically believe that sometime Biden, Hillary, Obama, Nuland, McCain, Zuckerberg, Schiff, Milley, Austin, Sean Penn, and Joy Behar suddenly all cared about US national security interests.

And no, a corrupt interest leading them to do what you think is right is not acceptable to a non-sociopath. The reason is that very quickly their corrupt reason will sabotage the goal you think is worthy.


53 posted on 03/21/2022 12:35:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Mariner

Not supporting nuclear war is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.


54 posted on 03/21/2022 12:39:29 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: DesertRhino
Nope, it’s very relevant. Unless of course you simplistically believe that sometime Biden, Hillary, Obama, Nuland, McCain, Zuckerberg, Schiff, Milley, Austin, Sean Penn, and Joy Behar suddenly all cared about US national security interests.

What President Trump thinks will have ZERO impact on the list of characters above. Just none. They really don't care.

Republicans/Conservatives need to ask ad nauseam the national security interest question. Some do - many won't. That question is the framework from which actions are based on.

55 posted on 03/21/2022 12:39:45 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Mariner

Where were all these people when Russia invaded the Crimea when Obama was president?


56 posted on 03/21/2022 12:42:20 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: nagant

What western allies are being attacked by Russia? And if killing your neighbors is wrong, why did the western Uke militias attack Donbass in 2014 and keep shelling them.
They simply do not want to run by the government installed by the coup. They didn’t attack the coup in any way. They just said they would no be a part of it.

And so then Azov and Svoboda attacked their neighbors.


57 posted on 03/21/2022 12:43:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: rivercat

“I’m rooting for Ukraine, but not to the point where I’m rooting for direct US military involvement.”

Same here


58 posted on 03/21/2022 12:43:59 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Mariner

No NBC, we America Firsters are simply not so eager to put the lives of our young people at risk, nor are we quite so willing to risk a nuclear exchange with an apparently paranoid leader of a nation that has 6,000 nuclear weapons, as the “standard” Republican neocon. I know, call us crazy, but we’re not actually eager to fight wars all the time - we’d like to restrict that to when it is absolutely necessary, and to do everything possible to avoid getting to “necessary.”

As usual, NBC is a garbage organization, misrepresenting things that it talks about, censoring what it doesn’t want to talk about.


59 posted on 03/21/2022 12:44:46 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: McGavin999

“furnish them what they need to fight off the Russia invasion because I believe the US needs to keep its word. “

We also gave our word NATO would not move east from Germany.


60 posted on 03/21/2022 12:44:59 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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