Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Senators Manchin and Sinema Just Killed Democrat Hopes of Codifying Roe v. Wade
Townhall ^ | 05/04/2022 | Spencer Brown

Posted on 05/04/2022 8:17:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

This week, Democrat Senators Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona dashed the hopes of their more radical colleagues amid renewed calls to pass a federal law that would overrule state limits or prohibitions on abortion.

Calls for slim Democrat majorities in the House and Senate to quickly advance a bill, the inaccurate and grossly named "Women's Health Protection Act," that would codify Roe v. Wade's concocted right to abortion were swift. Almost a little too swift, perhaps, in the wake of an unprecedented leak from the Supreme Court that showed a draft opinion by Justice Samuel Alito overturning Roe.

The bill was already passed by Speaker Pelosi's Democrat caucus in the House of Representatives, but in order to get the legislation past the Senate and on to President Biden's desk for signature, the bill would need to garner 60 votes in order to move the bill to a final vote, something that's just not going to happen with the current 50-50 split.

So, again, norm-shattering Dems called for the termination of the legislative filibuster requiring 60 votes to move bills ahead for a vote so they could force the Women's Health Protection Act through. But again, Senators Manchin and Sinema aren't having it.

In a statement released and tweeted by Senator Sinema, she restated her position that a "woman's healthcare choices should be between her, her family, and her doctor," but explained why she won't nuke the filibuster in order to pass a shortsighted Democrat bill.

Statement on Draft Supreme Court Opinion pic.twitter.com/3GYIF3YnM7— Kyrsten Sinema (@SenatorSinema) May 3, 2022

"Protections in the Senate safeguarding against the erosion of women's access to health care have been used half-a-dozen times in the past ten years, and are more important now than ever," Sinema's statement explained in her defense of the legislative filibuster. Without it, a future slim Republican majority could advance pretty much anything they want, including federal restrictions on abortion.

Sinema has staunchly defended the procedural hurdle amid crushing pressure from her own side of the aisle — and calls for violence against her from former Democrat officials — to join them in ending its protection against slim majorities being able to ram through whatever legislation they want. So too, has Senator Manchin. 

His response to questions about joining radical Democrats to end the legislative filibuster was predictable and in-line with his previous defense of its preservation:

So, Democrat hopes both for smashing the legislative filibuster and codifying Roe v. Wade are more or less done for. The midterms are just over six months away, the Senate is nearing the cutoff point before lawmaking slows for campaigning to take place, and there's more than a good chance Democrats won't be in control when the new Congress in sworn in. Will these realities stop Democrats and President Biden from shaking their fists and throwing tantrums? Probably not. But for now, attempts to codify Roe and a Democrat-invented right to abortion have been stopped. 



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Connecticut; US: New York; US: West Virginia; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: abortion; arizona; california; connecticut; filibuster; joemanchin; ketanjibrownjackson; kyrstensinema; manchin; nancypelosi; newyork; paulryan; plannedparenthood; righttolife; roevswade; roevwade; scotus; sinema; westvirginia; wisconsin
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-53 next last

1 posted on 05/04/2022 8:17:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Any death threats yet from the mostly peaceful PROtestors?


2 posted on 05/04/2022 8:18:44 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

no worries. Pierre Delecto and Susan Collins will come to the Rat’s rescue..


3 posted on 05/04/2022 8:19:39 AM PDT by max americana (fired leftards on cue after every election since 1992, and enjoyed seeing these bastards cry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Good news, but not great news.

If the Democrats crafted a bill that protected abortions at least through the first trimester, they'd get their 60 votes in the Senate. If they're greedy and want to protect abortions all the way to full term, I doubt that they'd get all 50 Democrat votes.

AFAIK, the Partial Birth Abortion ban is still on the books after a Supreme Court upheld it as constitutional.

4 posted on 05/04/2022 8:22:29 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rktman

Those “peaceful” death threats are something else. How about them
“peaceful” pro-abortionists threatening to burn down the Supreme Court. If Obama’s FBI guys ever hear about this the “peaceful” pro-abortion radicals may get a “May Fifth” investigation slap on the wrist by Feral “judges”. Clowns. Washington D.C. is full of clowns.


5 posted on 05/04/2022 8:22:47 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump. Let's Go Brandon! FJB!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: max americana

The demonmdriven hatred coming out-of Warren’s eyes and scrunched up facial features was really telling. Her inner demons were really really angry because women can’t murder unborn children wherever they want anymore

Imagine the sick twisted hatred dwelling inside people like her who are fire-spitting furious that they can t murder unborn anymore at will


6 posted on 05/04/2022 8:24:41 AM PDT by Bob434 (.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Kyrsten Sinema either enjoys being the John McCain of the Democrat party or isn't fully convinced that her party has election stealing down to a perfect science.

Manchin? He knows West Virginia isn't even close enough to steal . . . yet!

7 posted on 05/04/2022 8:25:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Abortion is a STATE’s rights issue, not a Federal one.


8 posted on 05/04/2022 8:29:02 AM PDT by rellic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

... the inaccurate and grossly named “Women’s Health Protection Act,”

Flick’s Rule 42. The meaning of every bill proposed by Congress is the exact opposite of its title.


9 posted on 05/04/2022 8:31:40 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The CDC. Brought to you by Pfizer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Women's Health Protection Act

It would be more accurate if it was called:

The Right To Remove An Inconvenience From My Womb and My Life

Or,

"The Right To Kill A Mistake"
10 posted on 05/04/2022 8:32:53 AM PDT by adorno
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Flick Lives

RE: ... the inaccurate and grossly named “Women’s Health Protection Act,”

Democrats like to name their bills to FOOL people into believing what opposite of what the bill’s effect really is.

For instance, “Affordable Care Act”? Really? Healthcare premiums have gone nowhere buy UP since its passing.


11 posted on 05/04/2022 8:34:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: rktman

The Congess has no Constitutional right to make abortion legal by statute.


12 posted on 05/04/2022 8:36:06 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

What I find surprising is that Sinema seems to be the only Democrat that understands that the filibuster potentially helps both parties. Are the rest of them unable to comprehend that they might not have the majority in the future? I guess that’s the arrogance that comes from stealing elections.


13 posted on 05/04/2022 8:37:53 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Regardless of the prospects in the Senate, the House will still have to try to pass a bill. That may create a problem for Democrats because the progressives will insist on “until birth”, plus government funding, which plays terribly politically and would alienate moderates. The Democrat infighting over the scope of an abortion rights bill in Congress — regardless of whether Congress regulating abortion is ultimately deemed constitutional or not — may blunt a lot of the political gain they might otherwise hope for.


14 posted on 05/04/2022 8:39:25 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin (Sounds like a lot of malarkey to be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: adorno

Some get pregnant so they can have an abortion.


15 posted on 05/04/2022 8:39:36 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
an unprecedented leak from the Supreme Court that showed a draft opinion by Justice Samuel Alito overturning Roe.

Is it possible that the Supreme Court hasn't really decided and Alito, and one of the liberals, were BOTH assigned to write opinions and then they'd vote after reviewing both opinions, but the 2nd opinion has not been leaked, nor will it be?

16 posted on 05/04/2022 8:47:35 AM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Flick Lives
Flick’s Rule 42. The meaning of every bill proposed by Congress is the exact opposite of its title.

Might be fun if you posted Rules 1-41 as well.

17 posted on 05/04/2022 8:49:47 AM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: max americana

“Pierre Delecto and Susan Collins will come to the Rat’s rescue..”

I’ve been reading the retorts on this thread and, as usual, the people are not considering the actions but banking on the numbers.

There never has been a body of government lawmakers that are as they state. People have been led down the path that the senate is a 50/50 situation. Sorry, no. Like you pointed out, it is made up of people that lean toward a philosophy of their idea of government.

The media can use the terminology of 50/50, but not every democrat is liberal and not every republican is conservative. And this is why votes vary in the houses while the politicians care more for themselves and less for their constituents. And if you are a conservative, and want the government to accomplish things you voted for, you need to vote out those that don’t follow the line you were misrepresented about. And people that voted for some of the people going in based upon their party affiliation and not their consistency of representation, are being mislead.

wy69


18 posted on 05/04/2022 8:51:29 AM PDT by whitney69
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind; All
"This week, Democrat Senators Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona dashed the hopes of their more radical colleagues amid renewed calls to pass a federal law that would overrule state limits or prohibitions on abortion [??? emphasis added]."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Although desperate, election year Democrats evidently want post-17th Amendment ratification, constitutionally low-information voters to think otherwise, patriots are reminded that the Constitution's Supremacy Clause doesn't work with bogus federal laws that the states haven't expressly constitutionally given the feds the specific power to make.

More specifically, the Constitution's silence on Democratic and RINO vote-winning, politically correct power to murder unborn children has never been enumerated in the Constitution.

Insights welcome.

Next, from an election year-related thread...

We have a very corrupt, alleged election-stealing, elite Democratic and RINO-controlled Congress that cannot be expected to its constitutionally enumerated duty to expel Constitution-ignoring career lawmakers under Article I, Section 5, Clause 2 (1.5.2) or Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

So it's up to Trump's red tsunami of patriot supporters to peacefully exercise their voting power in 2022 midterm elections to effectively make 1.5.2 and Section 3 work, applying Section 3 to both federal and state governments.

And speaking of voting power, patriots are reminded that they must vote twice this election year. Your first vote is to primary career RINO incumbents. Your second vote is to replace outgoing Democrats and RINOs with Trump-endorsed patriot candidates. (Good work OH patriots yesterday primary.)

Again, insights welcome.

19 posted on 05/04/2022 8:52:47 AM PDT by Amendment10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bob434

When I watched Warren my first thought was like yours, she is really angry about this decision. But then I realize she doesn’t really give a damn about unborn babies — it’s just about the power and how DARE they try to undermine what the Democrats have made their signature issue? DON’T THEY KNOW WHO I AM??? More temper tantrum than any kind of true belief system. They cannot stand being denied.


20 posted on 05/04/2022 8:52:54 AM PDT by bigbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-53 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson