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Senators Manchin and Sinema Just Killed Democrat Hopes of Codifying Roe v. Wade
Townhall ^ | 05/04/2022 | Spencer Brown

Posted on 05/04/2022 8:17:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
It is not "healthcare" to kill a baby. That is Orwellian speak. And it is not women's healthcare to kill the the youngest women of all. That is murder.

41 posted on 05/04/2022 9:55:58 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: A Navy Vet
The reason for that is because many if not most on FR are critical thinkers and more informed about the complexities of issues.

HA! Like the Grifter Pundit and other conspiracy websites?

Is there a "silver lining" with the entire shutdown of America for a strong flu that killed off thousands of small businesses and more so jobs?

The shutdown happened under Trump.

Is there a "silver lining" in Biteme/handlers nation-killing destructive immigration policy?

Yes. If the Democrats end up cutting their own throats with that move. The GOP has a 59%-38% lead among Hispanics right now in the Congressional ballot.

Is there a "silver lining" in Biteme/handlers reversal of being energy independent back to energy dependent of foreign oil?

Yes, the silver lining is it forces us to use the courts to block them from doing so, so that we learn how to use the processes that the left used during the Trump years.

42 posted on 05/04/2022 10:02:48 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: Socon-Econ

You key into the big problem....the Constitution only gives you a limited number of rights.

You don’t have a right to a driver’s license....that comes from your state constitution. You have no right for beer or alcohol, that also only comes from your state rights.

The issue for the Democrats...they’ve reached a level where any change to the Constitution would be nearly impossible to achieve. So I only see this maneuvering to a state by state discussion.

The sad thing is that this mid-term ought to be about the economy, and this really screws over the top topic list.


43 posted on 05/04/2022 10:09:36 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If they want to burn down the Supreme Courthouse... I’ll give them a lighter.

January 6th would be the greatest call to arms because these new protesters wouldn’t get an hour in jail.


44 posted on 05/04/2022 10:15:12 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think most of the dem politicians actually care that much about Roe. They just don’t want to lose one of their reliable scare tactics they use every election cycle. If abortion is decided on the state level, they won’t be able to use the possible loss of Roe to scare women into voting for them in federal elections, especially the presidential election.


45 posted on 05/04/2022 10:27:06 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: TexasGurl24
" HA! Like the Grifter Pundit and other conspiracy websites?"

Huh? I thought we were talking about Free Republic posters.

"The shutdown happened under Trump."

Wrong. The Municipalities and State Governors shut down America. Trump admitted he didn't have the power. The panic of Local Government put everyone indoors.

"Yes. If the Democrats end up cutting their own throats with that move. The GOP has a 59%-38% lead among Hispanics right now in the Congressional ballot."

I'll give you that one "if" as you say it occurs.

"Yes, the silver lining is it forces us to use the courts to block them from doing so, so that we learn how to use the processes that the left used during the Trump years."

And what do we do right now about the job and livelihood killing high fuel costs are causing? There is no end in sight. Sure you know how long Court cases take, even if you can a less than socialist judge.

46 posted on 05/04/2022 10:32:07 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: rellic

80% of the federal government is involved in what is a state’s rights issue.


47 posted on 05/04/2022 10:32:41 AM PDT by Leep (Don't say God.)
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To: A Navy Vet
Huh? I thought we were talking about Free Republic posters.

Those are the sites that the people that I am talking about post here.

Wrong. The Municipalities and State Governors shut down America. Trump admitted he didn't have the power. The panic of Local Government put everyone indoors.

The vast majority of shut downs happened under Trump's watch. That's just a fact. You were the one that brought up "business killing shutdowns." If Trump didn't have the power, then neither does Xiden. So either way, you took that talking point off the table.

I'll give you that one "if" as you say it occurs.

It already happened in Florida. It's the only reason for the swing in Miami-Dade.

And what do we do right now about the job and livelihood killing high fuel costs are causing? There is no end in sight. Sure you know how long Court cases take, even if you can a less than socialist judge.

You adapt and overcome. Silver lining doesn't mean that there isn't a storm. It means that there is hope in the storm. Too many surrender monkeys here want to focus only on the storm and never adapt and overcome. Lazy, coward, and defeatist are words that are too kind to describe that mentality.

48 posted on 05/04/2022 10:38:15 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: metmom

Ageed, but at least the perpetrators are on record for all to see.


49 posted on 05/04/2022 11:12:03 AM PDT by rellic
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To: TexasGurl24
"The vast majority of shut downs happened under Trump's watch."

Will you please stop? EVERYONE knows it was the States' Governors and Local governments that shut down the country. Trump did not use some magical Fedgov power in the Oval Office to shut down the Nation, and Biteme doesn't have the power either, of which you are correct.

"You adapt and overcome. Silver lining doesn't mean that there isn't a storm. It means that there is hope in the storm. Too many surrender monkeys here want to focus only on the storm and never adapt and overcome. Lazy, coward, and defeatist are words that are too kind to describe that mentality."

Like I said, I enjoy your optimism. Yes, there are defeatists who are ready to crawl under their beds and suck their thumbs. There are also those who see the Cloud and willing to fight for that "silver lining". "Hope" is not an option for a "silver lining".

Governor DeSantis of Florida is leading that fight. He was also one of the Governors who didn't shut down his state. Your Governor Abbott is doing some good things also. I have fought for my Republic's principles most of my life and I will continue as I decide which part of the Cloud to concentrate my efforts. Best wishes, TexasGurl24.

50 posted on 05/04/2022 12:29:44 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: SeekAndFind
“The filibuster is the protection of democracy,” Manchin tells me
Dude, the filibuster is a protection AGAINST democracy.

(As is the Senate itself and the Electoral College and federalism generally.)
51 posted on 05/04/2022 12:55:53 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
In a statement released and tweeted by Senator Sinema, she restated her position that a "woman's healthcare choices should be between her, her family, and her doctor," but explained why she won't nuke the filibuster... Sinema has staunchly defended the procedural hurdle amid crushing pressure from her own side of the aisle — and calls for violence against her from former Democrat officials — to join them in ending its protection against slim majorities being able to ram through whatever legislation they want. So too, has Senator Manchin.

52 posted on 05/05/2022 9:45:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: rellic

No state should give grown children the right to kill newly created children.


53 posted on 05/05/2022 5:25:20 PM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth.)
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