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An ex-member of one of the world's most dangerous mercenary groups has gone public
National Public Radio, All things Considered. ^ | June 6, 2022 | Eleanor Beardsley

Posted on 06/21/2022 2:15:14 PM PDT by Widget Jr

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I'm not a big fan of NPR. This is a straight interview with a former Wagner Group member, giving the insider view. Summary of Wagner Group's goals while Marat was a member:

This is all replicated in Ukraine. Since the company is not registered in Russia, the Kremlin gets to keep is hands officially clean while giving the orders and sanctioning everything the Wagner Group does.

1 posted on 06/21/2022 2:15:14 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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It is interesting how in this conflict the most effective warriors are mercenaries. Very retro. Almost medieval.


2 posted on 06/21/2022 2:22:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Yawn.

No different than Blackwater et al. i.e., CIA “contractors”…


3 posted on 06/21/2022 2:28:48 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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I am so glad the US does everything above-board.


4 posted on 06/21/2022 2:31:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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#3, #4: The U.S. never hid the involvement of contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan and holds them legally accountable.

Russia uses Private Military Corporations as substitutes for the Russian Army, pretends they do not exist, and looks the other way.

5 posted on 06/21/2022 2:41:59 PM PDT by Widget Jr (Disobey your television.)
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The reaction to articles like this are very telling.


6 posted on 06/21/2022 2:42:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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the Wagner Group is financed by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the same oligarch still wanted by the FBI for interfering in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

LOL, he's not that wanted, because it was all nonsense. Team Hillary just tagged some not-too-random Russians with their crimes.

7 posted on 06/21/2022 2:47:03 PM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vFiUUcBkc)
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Morally broken...


8 posted on 06/21/2022 2:48:24 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I am so glad the US does everything above-board.
= = =

above-board

‘above’ has hints of ‘supremacy’

Please be careful


9 posted on 06/21/2022 2:53:28 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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Too many “believes” and disinformation about Blackwater who “reportedly” never lost a person they were escorting/protecting. Two can play this game!


10 posted on 06/21/2022 3:03:26 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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“No different than Blackwater et al. i.e., CIA “contractors”…”

BS. First off Blackwater were DoD contractors, not CIA. Secondly Blackwater was contracted to provide defensive security not conduct offensive operations. Their job was to protect personnel and locations such as convoys and embassies. They did not conduct offensive operations, seize territory or attack enemy positions.


11 posted on 06/21/2022 3:07:46 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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Natalie Wood was not available for comment.


12 posted on 06/21/2022 3:16:35 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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Oh, facts, logic and reason again!/sarc

There are some, here, that think it’s perfectly acceptable for the invading army to use actual mercenaries, but cry foul when the invaded country allows foreigners to become citizens and then join the military.
Of course, they rejoice, when they are captured and sentenced to death by a kangaroo court.


13 posted on 06/21/2022 3:22:07 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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The Russian government has been treating it's military like garbage for over a century now.

Conscription means you do not need anything to lure people to join, it also means that you only get the people who could not, for some reason get out of it.

They feared their generals would stage a coup (gee I wonder why they would think that?) and so kept the military down and removed any military leaders they found to be to popular, to effective, to smart, to political and so forth.

14 posted on 06/21/2022 3:22:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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We're mercenaries and we expect to get paid!


15 posted on 06/21/2022 3:26:33 PM PDT by plain talk
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#6. Yep. Noticed that. The trolls are trying really hard to get fed.


16 posted on 06/21/2022 3:27:43 PM PDT by Widget Jr (Disobey your television.)
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Despite the West’s best efforts President Assad remains quite popular amongst the non-jihadist population of Syria...as does Russian President Putin.


17 posted on 06/21/2022 3:31:05 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; Justa; Widget Jr; logi_cal869
For what it's worth (and your mileage may vary on their veracity), there were allegations reported on at the time that Blackwater did in fact engage in offensive operations, and that their assignments were not purely defensive.

Just thinking in terms of probability (especially given their proximity to the conflict and the usefulness of having a private entity take on missions which did not fall under the oversight of the military chain of command), about the nature of "legal accountability" and how far it can be stretched (since the US military does indeed have a lot impunity in how it's conducted its affairs in various foreign operations over the past few decades), and the willingness of our government to lie to American citizens if it believes the cost is worth it...I would not be surprised in the least if the allegations that Blackwater committed offensive operations were true.

Will we find out for sure? Probably not until everyone involved is old or long dead.

18 posted on 06/21/2022 3:35:12 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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Wagner Group is financed by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the same oligarch still wanted by the FBI for interfering in the 2016 U.S. presidential election., lol

Poor Hillary! The FBI, they act as Hillary’s private army. She has ties to Ukraine, right ?

All things considered indeed.

19 posted on 06/21/2022 3:43:27 PM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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First link ...to a James Risen article, lol.


20 posted on 06/21/2022 3:44:24 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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