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Can Trump win over the GOP as the ‘moderate’ in the race?
New York Post ^ | April 21, 2023 6:25pm | Rich Lowry

Posted on 04/22/2023 10:23:40 AM PDT by TBP

Perhaps the most moderate candidate in the field as of this moment is Donald Trump.

If you want a Republican who won’t cut spending or start foreign wars, Trump is still your man.

Added to this now is clearly a discomfort with the fight over abortion in the post-Roe environment.

Trump’s main line of attack against Ron DeSantis is from the left.

He’s hitting the Florida governor hard for his past support for reining in Social Security and Medicare.

He’s also called the governor’s culture-war clash with Disney “so unnecessary” and “a political stunt,” while not entering the fray in the conservative war with Bud Light.

Of course, Trump’s personal power is such that he’s made loyalty to himself the standard for being considered right-wing — orthodox conservatives who reject Trump are more apt to be labeled moderates than Trump himself.

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To: rexthecat
Trump didn't lose. He was defrauded every which way. By democrats, republicans and those in the bureaucracies.

President Poopy Pants who hid under the lid during the campaign did not win. He was installed into office.

We are slowly hearing the different ways Trump was "defeated", from social media censorship by official "law enforcement", to the latest Blinken Hunter Biden laptop fiasco. Even with all these handicaps, they still had to manufacture and add a few thousands of votes in key states.

21 posted on 04/22/2023 10:39:58 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: TBP

Labels like moderate have no useful meaning after voters see how in-your-face-corrupt the government has become.


22 posted on 04/22/2023 10:40:06 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇸 Trump 2024 🇺🇸)
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To: TBP

Probably not, but the more real votes he can draw, the more egregious the steal will have to be, and eventually the whole house of card will come tumbling down...

It will be ugly and will probably mark the end of this great Republic, but given where we’re at, that’s not as bad as it may seem. Everyone alive will have to endure pain, suffering, and loss but that’s going to be true if we continue down the path we’re on anyway.


23 posted on 04/22/2023 10:42:44 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: TBP

And to think the FR Trump chumps are trying to call DeSantis a “RINO” while Trump’s campaign is calling DeSantis too extreme.


24 posted on 04/22/2023 10:42:55 AM PDT by dangus ( )
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To: rexthecat

You’re reaching if you think he actually lost.


25 posted on 04/22/2023 10:46:39 AM PDT by Red6
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To: dangus

All this back and forth gets aggravating, considering that this is ultimately all about who the Republican party nominee for president will be. We’re all on the same team in that regard, against the liberal Democrats.


26 posted on 04/22/2023 10:47:34 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: wardaddy

Lowery thinks Paul Ryan was a Conservative.


27 posted on 04/22/2023 10:48:53 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: TBP

Trump and ONLY Trump in 24

He should be president NOW!!


28 posted on 04/22/2023 10:54:51 AM PDT by afchief
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To: JonPreston

“DJT will win the nomination only to have the general election taken from him once again.”

I have to dissagree, but only in the sense that I do not think the Republican establishment will allow him to win the nomination.
Remember, even though he can win the nomination by a minimum 15% - 20% of the vote, only about 8%-10% of the RNC supports Trump.
No way they allow him to be the nominee.
Beside the fact, they would have to clear it with the Democrats, doncha know


29 posted on 04/22/2023 10:55:31 AM PDT by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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To: Kazan

“Trump has the most conservative record as President as any President in recent history, perhaps surpassing Reagan.”

Trump’s major problems are not coming from the moderates or the left. They are coming from his own party. They are like Nero in Rome. They are watching the country burn while it is being rebuilt by the liberals and they are saying absolutely nothing.

The left has been trying to get Trump while, and after, he was in office so he won’t run again. They are still at it because they are scared to death of him. But they are only able to make it look like he shouldn’t be voted for. Meanwhile, they are searching for someone to run from their congregation and old mother Hubbard’s shelves are empty so now their only choice is to publicly try to make any conservative unelectable whether they are or not. So they “badmouth” DeSantis and prosecute Trump while trying to hide Biden from the exact same “crimes.”

Thus it is becoming not a race of success, but a race of getting by. And the libs are winning it because the conservatives are doing like Biden, hiding in their basements in fear.

wy69


30 posted on 04/22/2023 11:06:04 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: Kazan
It's DeSantis that is bed with the establishment of the party

That statement is 100% false.

31 posted on 04/22/2023 11:08:35 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: JoSixChip

BINGO!


32 posted on 04/22/2023 11:08:49 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: Kazan

DeSantis has not done tht.


33 posted on 04/22/2023 11:10:40 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Rich Lowry is striking out here.

This is not the Reagan Revolution - when politics was about who can best articulate and defend conservative principles.

We won that battle of ideas, but we are losing the war anyway, because the Left has refused to abide by the will of the people.
They have refused to honor fair debate.
They have refused to report the truth.
They have refused to record the true history
They refuse to accept fair elections.

They have lied and cheated their way into all our institutions.

So winning the war of ideas is no longer the issue. We already won that.
Everyone knows the government spends too much.
Everyone knows we are overtaxed.
Everyone knows these endless foreign wars are not in the national interest.
Everyone knows what’s wrong with fiat currency.
Everyone knows what’s wrong with giving up manufacturing dominance.
Everyone knows what’s wrong with giving up energy dominance.
Everyone knows what’s wrong with a permanent unelected bureaucracy.
Everyone knows what’s wrong with open borders.
Everyone knows what’s wrong with teaching perversion in schools.

The time for arguing over moderate vs. conservative vs. liberal is long past.

Trump’s MAGA movement is not about who is more conservative - it’s about who will fight for what we already know.


34 posted on 04/22/2023 11:14:31 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: Kazan

So whipping vots for Ronna was conservative, but endorsing Harmeeet was RINO?

Standing up to woke corporations like Disny is RINO but defending them is conservative?

Boycotting Anheuser Busch over their woke ads is RINO, but defending them is conservative?

Refusing to change the bankrupt Social Security-Medicare system is conservative, while trying to rein them in is RINO?

Praising Charlie Crist is conservative, but his opponent is RINO?

If you believe that, then your definition of conservatism is “whatever Trump wants.”

Donald Trump was an excellent president, one of the best we’ve had. (And I’m old enough to have lived under 13 of them.) But by running against one of America’s best governors from the left, he does himself no favors. He does not define conservativsm or even MAGA. That’s bigger than Trump. It’s us.

Why do you think a number of hardcore Trumpers are not with him this time?


35 posted on 04/22/2023 11:24:50 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Mariner

Aren’t we supposed to be the constitutionalists, the decentralizers?


36 posted on 04/22/2023 11:27:21 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: dangus
And to think the FR Trump chumps are trying to call DeSantis a “RINO” while Trump’s campaign is calling DeSantis too extreme.

Whatever it takes, I guess.

Those darn right-wing extremist RINOs!

37 posted on 04/22/2023 11:30:15 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Red6

So let’s assume that when Trump was the incumbent, they stole the election from him.

If that’s the case, how does he defeat them now, when he no longer has he advantage of incumbency?


38 posted on 04/22/2023 11:31:35 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Bravo! Thanks for saving me typing time!!


39 posted on 04/22/2023 11:31:56 AM PDT by lionstar
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To: tennmountainman

Trump endorsed Ryan. In the primary, and more than once.

Ryan was perhaps slightly less liberal then other RINOs. That’s not saying much.


40 posted on 04/22/2023 11:33:17 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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