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Against All Odds: How Rap Legend Tupac Shakur Shot Down Ray Epps Defamation Claim Against Tucker and Revolver News
Revolver News ^ | 7/17/23 | staff

Posted on 07/18/2023 10:27:04 AM PDT by CFW

Last week Ray Epps filed a defamation suit against Fox News for coverage of Epps’ involvement in the January 6. The allegedly defamatory content in question concerned reporting from Tucker Carlson and Revolver News’ Darren Beattie that appeared on Fox News that suggested Ray Epps may directly or indirectly have been acting an asset of the U.S. government — in colloquial terms, that Ray Epps may be a “fed.”

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The U.S. Government has a long and storied history of using agents provocateur in similar contexts. Epps’ behavior on January 5 and 6th was considered so egregious that he was one of the first twenty people the FBI included on its January 6th Most Wanted list. Epps had formerly served as the head of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers — the most demonized and heavily prosecuted militia group associated with January 6th (whose vice president was outed as an FBI informant). Epps is the only person caught on camera, as early as the 5th, in Trump hat and camo, repeatedly inciting the crowd around him to go “INTO” the Capitol, and prefacing each exhortation with the expectation that he would probably “go to jail” and “be arrested” for such incitement.

But Epps wasn’t arrested. The DOJ was frothing at the mouth for people to make an example of, and for whatever reason it declined to charge Epps with trespassing or conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, both easy charges given his conduct and the standards according to which the DOJ prosecuted other, less high profile cases. Even stranger, former Oath Keeper Epps became the only January 6th participant that the New York Times wrote a puff piece on, 60 Minutes did a sympathy segment on, and Adam Kinzinger would defend.

(Excerpt) Read more at revolver.news ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: adamkinzinger; defamation; epps; fbi; fib; foxnews; jan6th; oathkeepers; rayepps; revolvernews; tuckercarlson; tupacshakur
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Interesting overview of the Ray Epps v. Fox News defamation suit and how courts have ruled in a similar case.
1 posted on 07/18/2023 10:27:04 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

When did Tupac become a judge?


2 posted on 07/18/2023 10:32:39 AM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks

He was killed in 1996 according to Wikipedia.


3 posted on 07/18/2023 10:42:22 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: CFW

In the current threads, we have Tupac and UFOs…


4 posted on 07/18/2023 10:42:44 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: CFW

Tupac went from a nopac to now having an impac?


5 posted on 07/18/2023 10:45:28 AM PDT by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

I know he’s dead. It was a rhetorical question.


6 posted on 07/18/2023 10:46:15 AM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: CFW

I never heard Tucker state definitively that Epps was a government agent or informant. I heard him question why Epps wasn’t treated like others and speculate whether it was because he was a government agent.


7 posted on 07/18/2023 10:50:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: EEGator

LOL!!!


8 posted on 07/18/2023 10:50:50 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CFW

Even the nuts on the J6 inquisition were defending Epps so you know he’s an insider working for the deep state.


9 posted on 07/18/2023 10:57:49 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

He got smoked in LV. Biggie got his too….

Maybe Biggie shouldn’t have released the track “Who Shot Ya”…


10 posted on 07/18/2023 11:02:45 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: CFW

Great analysis. Thanks for sharing!


11 posted on 07/18/2023 11:10:13 AM PDT by keats5
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To: CFW

Interesting article.


12 posted on 07/18/2023 11:14:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Here's the problem, Epp sues, he will be deposed, and he will also have to produce all comms records before / during / after J6.

The only possible explanation is that Fox has already agreed to pay him off the way they paid off Dominion.

"Got bills and you need money fast? Call 1-800-SUE-FAUX" ... hell they could even have a "Sue Faux" actress pimping the call line.

13 posted on 07/18/2023 11:28:44 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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I’d mentioned this before. The allegation that you are a federal agent is unlikely to be found to be defamatory.
That he incited some of the J6 action might be defamatory IF it were untrue.


14 posted on 07/18/2023 11:43:49 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: circlecity

Yeah, but the point of the article is, even if he came out and said Epps was a “fed”, and even if he said this knowing it was false, that doesn’t rise to the standard of defamation, since saying someone cooperates with law enforcement, or is employed by law enforcement is not a slanderous charge to a “right-thinking person”, which is the legal standard.


15 posted on 07/18/2023 11:52:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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It’s COINTELPRO 2.0, with white, conservative pro-life Christians the new Black Panthers, Weathermen and SDS. And new FBI with a strong desire to kill.


16 posted on 07/18/2023 11:56:09 AM PDT by DPMD (ua)
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To: CFW

They misspelled “cRap.”


17 posted on 07/18/2023 12:47:42 PM PDT by threefinger
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Yes, very interesting what the judge said in the case.

“....Here, plaintiff alleges that Shakur’s song “Against All Odds” falsely accuses him of “working as an undercover federal informant” and that, as a result of this accusation, he has suffered damage to his reputation and been placed in danger. (Compl.¶¶ 18-19) Even accepting that the statements at issue are false and caused plaintiff injury, however, plaintiff's claim must be rejected. In order to be libelous under New York law, a false statement must hold the plaintiff up to ridicule or scorn in the minds of “right-thinking persons”; those who would think ill of one who legitimately cooperates with law enforcement officials are not such persons.......”

May there be some right thinking people who remain on juries.

18 posted on 07/18/2023 12:49:19 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: EEGator

And Wiz Khalifa too.


19 posted on 07/18/2023 12:57:07 PM PDT by rdl6989 ( )
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To: rdl6989

I’m hoping an Andy Kaufman thread pops up…


20 posted on 07/18/2023 12:57:48 PM PDT by EEGator
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