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Kevin McCarthy’s Shutdown Dilemma
Time via Yahoo! ^ | September 27, 2023 | Nik Popli

Posted on 09/27/2023 8:14:39 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA

With just five days to go until the government shuts down without a spending deal, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy is at a crossroads.

He can either shut down the government and possibly save his standing with the GOP hardliners threatening to oust him, or work with Democrats to pass a short-term spending bill and avert a government shutdown—potentially at the expense of his own speakership.

Caught in the middle of the California Republican's political calculus are including hundreds of thousands of federal workers millions of Americans who would be impacted by even a short government shutdown, and scores of everyday citizens.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: faggot; mccarthy; pussy; shutdown; traitor
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including hundreds of thousands of federal workers

The correct moniker is lazy ass government employees. They ARE the problem and they need to go one way or another. As for those “citizens” impacted by a shutdown, they can get jobs. Social Security and Medicare are not affected by a shutdown. So exactly who is really affected? Just grifters.

1 posted on 09/27/2023 8:14:39 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

It’s never a winning issue politically.


2 posted on 09/27/2023 8:19:28 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: ConservativeInPA

shut it down!!!!!!


3 posted on 09/27/2023 8:20:32 AM PDT by patriot torch (..)
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To: ConservativeInPA
in past shutdowns, the govt. workers weren't hurt alt all. They received the pay they should have lost, retroactively. No loss. Just a small, paid vacation.

And, I didn't even know the govt. was shutdown. Didn't feel any effects of it.

4 posted on 09/27/2023 8:23:04 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: ConservativeInPA

And, IIRC, they are all made ‘whole’ once the ‘shutdown’ is resolved...
The only pain they feel is short term, which they should have already accounted for in their personal budgeting.

Using FedGov empolyee pain as a tool to force the GOPe to cave is a red herring argument, at best.
Of course, it is the GOPe, so...


5 posted on 09/27/2023 8:23:26 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
It’s never a winning issue politically.

You are woefully ignorant. Please look up election results after previous shutdowns.

6 posted on 09/27/2023 8:25:10 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Vacate the chair. Shutter the government until it can be correctly defunded.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

No! We are 1/2 problem and the people we elect are the other half. Government workers are just the visible symptom. Too many of us believe in fairy tale economics and readily fall for the idea that there’s always a good reason to spend money. Never a good reason or cut or just not spend.

The government worker wouldn’t be there if we did fall for the political snake oil that created the program for them to ‘administer’.


7 posted on 09/27/2023 8:26:05 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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As a result of conflicts between Democratic then-President Bill Clinton and the Republican Congress over funding for education, the environment, and public health in the 1996 federal budget, the United States federal government shut down twice——for 5 and 21 days, respectively.
<><>from November 14 through November 19, 1995,
<><>and from December 16, 1995, to January 6, 1996.

Republicans also threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

The first shutdown occurred after Clinton vetoed the spending bill the Republican-controlled Congress sent him, as Clinton opposed the budget cuts favored by Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and other Republicans.

The first budget shutdown ended after Congress passed a temporary budget bill, but the government shut down again after Republicans and Democrats were unable to agree on a long-term budget bill.

The second shutdown ended with congressional Republicans accepting Clinton’s budget proposal. The first of the two shutdowns caused the furlough of about 800,000 workers, while the second caused about 284,000 workers to be furloughed.


8 posted on 09/27/2023 8:27:58 AM PDT by Liz ( 2024 Dems will have the same guy with the same team around him, just older.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Let Puzzle Place shut down but we should check off with Frank Luntz to see which way it will go.


9 posted on 09/27/2023 8:28:33 AM PDT by Rappini ("No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation" MacArthr)
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Let Puzzle Place shut down but we should check off with Frank Luntz to see which way it will go.

Do you mean this Frank Luntz? One half of a faggot couple?


10 posted on 09/27/2023 8:31:48 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Vacate the chair. Shutter the government until it can be correctly defunded.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

The government employees sent home get paid. So sick of this crap.


11 posted on 09/27/2023 8:43:11 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Don’t worry, Kevin McCarthy will bend over and take it good and hard like the Good GOPe Stooge that he is!!!!


12 posted on 09/27/2023 8:43:23 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Thanks to the enemymedia we always get blamed.


13 posted on 09/27/2023 8:43:34 AM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as big an enemy to this country as national media.anan he )
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To: ConservativeInPA

WTF... The always get the salary makeup check... always!!

FED works never lose $$! But WE THE PEOPLE do.


14 posted on 09/27/2023 8:47:52 AM PDT by Big Bill in TN (Army Vet.here. I know how to fix stupid, but it will hurt!)
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To: ConservativeInPA
How rude to call someone ignorant because you disagree with my comment. This isn't DU. Especially from a resident of the state that elected Fetterman.

A shutdown shows Republican incompetence to get things done on time. To the cameras they only have pressers to discuss Hunter or Ukraine funding. The Speaker of the House promises but rarely delivers.

If he stood up to the Democrats and kept it shut until they caved it would be a winning issue, but Republicans always give up after a week or two and get nothing in return but deserved ridicule.

15 posted on 09/27/2023 8:48:59 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: TornadoAlley3

“During Ronald Reagan’s presidency, there were two government shutdowns. The first occurred from November 23 to November 25, 1981, and the second shutdown happened from October 3 to October 6, 1984. These shutdowns were relatively short compared to some more recent ones in U.S. history.”

Reagan had no problems being re-elected.


16 posted on 09/27/2023 8:53:10 AM PDT by Signalman
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I sincerely hope McCarthy has problems getting re-elected


17 posted on 09/27/2023 8:56:09 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Organic Panic
The government employees sent home get paid. So sick of this crap.

It’s just another compromise that shouldn’t be made. I never heard of anyone getting laid off in the private sector coming back to work and being paid for not working. It’s worse with scumbag government employees. They don’t work to begin with, at least not in the sense of working for the American taxpayers.

If anyone is curious as to why I demonize federal employees, it is actually for several thoughtful reasons. We need to steel ourselves for the day when a large portion of federal employees do lose their jobs, permanently. There will be sob stories and we do have some compassion. We cannot succumb to that compassion when it is necessary to fire them. Then there is the fact that federal employees are the deep state. And then by demonizing federal employees is an attempt to shame them into doing the right thing. That’s getting a real job in the private sector a building something that benefits Americans.

18 posted on 09/27/2023 8:58:08 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Vacate the chair. Shutter the government until it can be correctly defunded.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

In a normal, sane, common sense world... this would be a no-brainer for McCarthy. Either get what the majority of reps in the House wants from the Democrats in the deal, or shut it down.

There is no “dilemma”. It’s just an illusion. And we’ve seen this show before. We know how it ends, don’t we.


20 posted on 09/27/2023 9:01:45 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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