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The Incandescent Ban and the Lie of LED Efficiency
Foundation for Economic Education. ^ | October 18, 2023 | Peter Jacobsen

Posted on 10/19/2023 4:08:51 PM PDT by george76

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1 posted on 10/19/2023 4:08:51 PM PDT by george76
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The point of the progressive agenda is always to make energy more expensive, not less. If you keep this in mind, many things that otherwise would make no sense, make perfect sense. The Left loves high energy costs. If you just accept that premise, everything they do on the energy scene makes sense, even the bad things (which is most of them).


2 posted on 10/19/2023 4:13:08 PM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: george76

The government should stay the hell out of regulating light bulbs, dishwashers and a whole host of appliances including efficiency standards for autos.

That said... I love LED light bulbs.


3 posted on 10/19/2023 4:15:13 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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I use incandescent bulbs, and I have have a stash of them as backups. If I want more, I just order them via eBay or Amazon from an overseas source.


4 posted on 10/19/2023 4:15:14 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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Yep, LED Lumens do not necessarily make the illuminated object more clear to the eye.


5 posted on 10/19/2023 4:15:26 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: trad_anglican

“The point of the progressive agenda is always to make energy more expensive, not less.”

Bingo! LED are better as far as useable light and using far less electricity to run, but, as you mention, that isn’t what is driving the laws against incandescent bulbs. The laws are merely making lighting more expensive.

Rule#1: The elites want you dead.


6 posted on 10/19/2023 4:16:22 PM PDT by CodeToad (Rule#1: The elites want you dead.)
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Just wait until the Feds are done effin’ us with EVs. It’s only the beginning....look at how dependable green energy is...and cost effective too! Kinda like obamacare, whenever the government opens its mouth....lies pour out like, well, diarrhea.


7 posted on 10/19/2023 4:16:38 PM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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The entire light bulb thing has been a scam from the start.

We have plenty of the “new, efficient” bulbs in our home and have been changing at LEAST one of them every month, for years!

Incandescent, we changed once in a while. Never, ever like this new CRAP.

The worst part is, how hard it is to even know which damn bulb to buy! Ugggghhhhh, I’m stopping now before I go Full Old Lady.


8 posted on 10/19/2023 4:19:07 PM PDT by workerbee (==)
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“That said... I love LED light bulbs.”

I have to agree. I resisted a LONG time and put in a huge stash of incandescent bulbs. But LEDs improved much faster than I thought they would and the color of the light is very good, just like an incandescent. They don’t flicker. They can be dimmed and controlled by my house automation.

The great thing is we can go away for extended periods and know the bulbs won’t burn out while we are gone. I’ve got a lot of Z-Wave dimmer/switches and modules controlling ceiling lights and table lamps to make the house look lived-in while we are away. We used to come home from extended trips and find several incandescent bulbs burned out (including the porch lights). The life of LEDs fixed that problem.


9 posted on 10/19/2023 4:19:43 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Absolutely agree. After moving to all LED lighting for my overhead lights my electric bill has dropped by a factor of 2 even accounting for inflation. A lot of that cost is my air conditioner having to remove the heat from incandescent lights. Have custom LED strip lights under the kitchen counter - no heat, bright light and I can see what I am doing. Not all technologly is bad.


10 posted on 10/19/2023 4:21:03 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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One thing I like to point out is that Incandescent bulbs can be 100% efficient in your home in a cold climate. This is because all the heat losses simply heat your home.

Over all though the LED bulbs can make a noticeable difference in your electric bill. Some of them last for years and others not so long because of those cheap power supplies in the base of the bulb. I don’t see congress regulating those.


11 posted on 10/19/2023 4:21:27 PM PDT by Revel
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Sorry, George76, but this article is the biggest pile of bullshit I have ever seen posted on FR. It has more errors that a Swiss cheese has holes. Whoever wrote it is a scientific illiterate.


12 posted on 10/19/2023 4:21:53 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (NRA Life Member)
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Eight 60W equivalent bulbs cost $20 and change from Home Depot today. My last of my incandescent stockpile was gone. A light bulb 💡 now costs $7. Whooda thunk that?


13 posted on 10/19/2023 4:21:54 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: ducttape45
I just order them via eBay or Amazon from an overseas source.

Thanks for pointing this out. I'll definitely check out DHGate.

14 posted on 10/19/2023 4:23:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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I have beveled glass fixtures in front of my garage. The best bulb is a clear incandescent light that gives it a natural look. I stocked up on the bulbs cause the LED bulbs make you feel that you’re in a waiting room at the hospital.


15 posted on 10/19/2023 4:23:46 PM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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If consumers value frozen ice cream enough, they’ll be willing to pay more for an ice cream truck with a freezer

Oh absolutely. And if the ice cream vendor uses LED lighting instead of incandescent lighting in his ice cream freezer, the cost of freezing the icecream will decrease because he is not using gasoline to generate the electricity to melt the icecream that he then has to use more gas for to run the condensor on the freezer to remove the heat that his engine is working to dump into the ice cream.

16 posted on 10/19/2023 4:24:39 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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Flicker is often the result of a fluorescent conversion that did not remove the ballast.


17 posted on 10/19/2023 4:25:31 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: george76

I swapped out my ‘heat bulbs’ for CFC and later, LEDs.
Saved a ton on my electric bill.


18 posted on 10/19/2023 4:26:27 PM PDT by ASOC (This space for rent)
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To: george76

Engineered obsolescence is a thing. There is a lightbulb burning in a Californian Fire House for 116 years. It’s dimmer than it was when it was originally installed, but it’s burned all those years with only a 22 minute rest when the fire house was moved. The company who made that bulb partnered up with three other bulb manufacturers and came up with a plan to make sure their bulbs burned out at around 1,000 hours, making sure there would always be a need. Engineered Obsolescence is most definitely a thing. One other example, I had a hydraulic cylinder that was in use for over thirty years. When we took it out because it had finally failed, I told the rebuild shop to put it back to OEM specs. They wouldn’t do it. Not good for business. Nowadays, I get maybe seven to ten years of service. Pathetic.


19 posted on 10/19/2023 4:26:48 PM PDT by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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Not all of us have time to get a degree in electrical engineering

This idiot clearly didn't get a 1st year engieering understanding of the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics or he wouldn't have written this idiocy.

Joke [not so much]: [Texas A&M] Aggie principle of thermodynamics - there is not free lunch.

20 posted on 10/19/2023 4:27:04 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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