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Maine Senator King's proposal aims to ban certain kinds of guns, limit bullet capacity (upon inspection, almost all guns could be banned)
WGME Portland via MSN ^ | November 30, 2023 | WGME Staff

Posted on 12/03/2023 10:18:39 AM PST by DoodleBob

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To: Pontiac

Politian’s are the center of a special world that orbits them.

“Good morning, Senator. Here’s your coffee. I’ve put your agenda on the table. You have a meeting with the head of the United Labor Front at nine. Your notes on the last meeting are next to your schedule. Can I get anything for you?”

Someone lays out their clothes, folds their laundry, makes their meals and generally makes them feel important. You almost never see a politician retire because they are the job. As far as they are concerned, no one else can even do it. I’m reminded of Ruth Ginsberg who was asked when she’d retire. She snapped back, “And who would do my job?” I’d have said, anyone with a pulse. But she obviously thought, as do they all, that no one else was even marginally qualified.


21 posted on 12/03/2023 11:03:44 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Pontiac; DoodleBob
This sounds like it would effect everything except muskets and revolvers.

As for the "...in or affecting inter- state or foreign commerce..."

It sure sounds to me like they intend to leverage the Commerce Clause and try to make their unconstitutional acts appear "constitutional".

22 posted on 12/03/2023 11:07:51 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: caww

79 years old? FOAD already, Angus...


23 posted on 12/03/2023 11:09:32 AM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: DoodleBob
I have another proposal. We have tried control, laws, rules, restrictions, tracking, registrations, forms, etc for control over guns. All to no avail because the criminals do not follow the rules, etc......

In fact all law abiding citizens can be disarmed and the criminals will still have guns and shoot people.

My suggestion. Everyone can open carry a gun and defend themselves without issues. Sure were are going to lose a few, but after that we will have a very polity society.

24 posted on 12/03/2023 11:18:38 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: DoodleBob

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25 posted on 12/03/2023 11:23:20 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: DoodleBob

King was a liberal democrat up until 1993. That’s really about all one needs to know other than he’s a lawyer of little accomplishment.

The last democrat in Texas with a brain was Dolph Briscoe. And, there is no question in my mind that he would have switched parties in todays political environment.


26 posted on 12/03/2023 11:42:09 AM PST by Cen-Tejas
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To: DoodleBob

That’s not going to go over well in Maine.

I have a better idea.

Let’s ban *gun free* zones and put people who are known to be mentally unstable in mental hospitals again. And do something about those posting public, online threats instead of letting the fib egg them on.


27 posted on 12/03/2023 11:42:39 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Noumenon

If the bill won’t curb mass killers, it won’t affect mass killings. More lunacy from the asylum wing that believes that guns commit the crimes.


28 posted on 12/03/2023 11:46:08 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: BitWielder1

Next will be knives and then sharp sticks or any sticks that could be sharpened.


29 posted on 12/03/2023 11:48:07 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

My oldest son has quite a number of baseball bats he swung when he played minor league baseball. I guess they’re “assault bats” now.


30 posted on 12/03/2023 12:09:17 PM PST by kawhill (kawhill)
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To: kawhill
My oldest son has quite a number of baseball bats he swung when he played minor league baseball. I guess they’re “assault bats” now.

I bet that one could be fashioned into a gun stock for a fully semi-automatic gun.

31 posted on 12/03/2023 12:14:27 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: kawhill
Why Are They Using Baseball Bats Instead of Cricket Bats in the U.K. Riots?
A history of mob violence and sporting goods
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2011/08/why-are-londoners-using-baseball-bats-instead-of-cricket-bats-in-the-riots.html
32 posted on 12/03/2023 12:28:11 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: DoodleBob
‘‘(E) a blowback-operated system that directly utilizes the expanding gases of the ignited propellant powder acting on the cartridge case to drive the breechblock or breech bolt rearward; or”

‘‘(F) a recoil-operated system that utilizes the recoil force to unlock the breech bolt and then to complete the cycle of extracting, ejecting, and re- loading.”

I like how Democrats redefine works such that they no longer mean what they use to mean, so they become illegal.

A blow-back or recoil operated semi-automatic rifle is not a gas operated semiautomatic rifle.

In the Soviet of Washington the people were conned into voting to redefine an “Assault rifle” as any semi-automatic rifle, even if it is a tubular magazine semi-automatic 22 long rifle rifle. Got to love the whole George Orwell 1984 New Speak approach to mind control.

33 posted on 12/03/2023 12:38:14 PM PST by Robert357
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To: Gen.Blather
She snapped back, “And who would do my job?” I’d have said, anyone with a pulse. But she obviously thought, as do they all, that no one else was even marginally qualified. She snapped back, “And who would do my job?” I’d have said, anyone with a pulse. But she obviously thought, as do they all, that no one else was even marginally qualified

USSC Justice is like the POTUS, no one is truly qualified until they are in the job.

And many of those who get the job are not really qualified when they leave the job, like the current POTUS.

34 posted on 12/03/2023 1:41:46 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: DPMD
Don’t “mass shootings” account for about 1% of those killed with firearms?

Notwithstanding the fact that Chicago gangbangers won’t play by anyone else’s rules, would the streets be any safer if they were armed with 1911s, with a round capacity of only 8?

35 posted on 12/03/2023 4:21:32 PM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

The USCCA has published a book by Michael Martin titled “Countering the Mass Shooter Threat,” in which the question of smaller magazines vs killings is addressed. It’s a very interesting read, and seems to make sense.


36 posted on 12/04/2023 11:08:49 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: DoodleBob; All
Thank you for referencing that article DoodleBob. Please note that the following critique is directed at Senator King and not at you.

"Maine Senator King's proposal aims to ban certain kinds of guns, limit bullet capacity (upon inspection, almost all guns could be banned)"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

To begin with, post-17th Amendment ratification Senator King's proposal would weaken the constitutionally enumerated right of the states, especially the border states, to protect themselves from invasion imo.

"Article I, Section 10, Clause 3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay [emphasis added]."

Nor does Senator King seem to understand that the states have never expressly constitutionally given to Congress the specific power to tell manufacturers how to make their products imo.

Regarding Congress telling foreign and domestic manufacturers how to build their products, "crippled" guns in this example, Justice Joseph Story had made a few example lists of commerce-related powers that, although intimately (Story's word) related to commerce, are not part of Congress's Commerce Clause powers.

Story used the basic example of manufactures, manufactured products, in his lists.

But more importantly with respect to Congress not having the power to regulate manufactures, please consider the following.

The 65th Congress seems to have respected Story indicating that Congress regulating how manufactures make their products would be an unconstitutional expansion of Commerce Clause powers, and appropriately did the following. Congress included the words manufacture and sale in a necessary amendment to the Constitution to give Congress the new power that it needed to effectively prohibit the consumption of alcoholic beverages. This is evidenced by the 18th Amendment (18A).

Excerpted from 18A:

"Section 1. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited [emphases added]."

The "manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors guns and ammunition" language above would likewise need to be put into a new constitutional amendment in order for federal Democrats and RINOs to justify their vote-buying attempts to force citizens to buy "crippled" guns and limit ammo purchases, just as 18A effectively limited what people could drink.

"In every event, I would rather construe so narrowly as to oblige the nation to amend, and thus declare what powers they would agree to yield, than too broadly, and indeed, so broadly as to enable the executive and the Senate to do things which the Constitution forbids." —Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.

37 posted on 12/04/2023 6:11:11 PM PST by Amendment10
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