Posted on 12/19/2023 4:40:22 PM PST by eastexsteve
Hell! I may have to move to Texas!
It would be bad for conservatives, because that is a lot of electoral votes we would lose. Now if we could get all red states to secede in unison, that would be a different matter entirely.
If America is divisible, States are divisible.
I think that TX put that right (to secede) in their state constitution and the feds agreed to it.
Here’s hoping.
Yes.
“If Texas secedes, then they cannot vote in federal elections. No electoral votes for Trump or any future Republican Presidential candidates. No Republican Senators or Representatives in Congress.”
Those terms are acceptable. It also means no federal taxes paid either!
No, we are too intertwined sadly,, buy leftism in the US must be crushed. It’s rediculous that this demonic marxism has been allowed to grow for 90 years.
Let’s just crush leftism in the US, it has gone on long enough. Reckoning time.
"Texas could vote on referendum to secede from the United States this spring"
Speaking of secession, why don't Texans support a referendum that would support hopeful Trump 47 in leading all the states to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes and likewise unconstitutional interference in the affairs of the sovereign states?
More specifically, Texans need to lead ALL the states to effectively “secede” from the unconstitutionally big federal government by repealing the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A).
Consider the repealing of 16&17A as part of reparations for victim taxpayers of the unconstitutionally big federal government having to pay a lifetime of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
“If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).
From the congressional record:
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
“Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves [emphasis added]. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)
Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it." (non-FR; 6 sec.)
Democrats Are Terrified Of An Educated And Informed Public (3.12.23)
Finally, consider that corrupt political party and media fuss about "obsolete" electoral college is because the electoral college is the only thing stopping the corrupt political parties from establishing a permanent puppet presidency that will unquestioningly sign unconstitutional taxing and spending bills into law.
I’ve never cast more than 1 ballot . . .
But
Man O Man this will be tempting.
Never happens...they’d still need approval by both houses of Congress and 3/4 of the states.
Not seeing that.
I’m OK with Kentucky being part of Texas.
Take me with you. I don’t want to live in a Satanic nation.
I’ll believe TX is serious when it gets its budgetary house in order.
Until then...
Well, talk is cheap, isn’t it...
So the Supreme Court’ has said but to me the relevant principle is stated in the Declaration of Independence, and no court can overrule that.
Opinions vary. But one thing is clear: a constitutional convention or amendement could rewrite all the rules, and allow for splitting up the country.
Whether it is the sane states leaving or kicking out the dysfunctional ones, it’s time for a divorce.
That’s an interesting map. I can’t help but notice there is more blue in Texas than there is in NY.
As a Texan from an old Hispanic family, I’m reasonably certain that if secession happens, Texans will not be asking congress or any states pretty please before we do it-we are WAY beyond permission from the corrupt swamp-and I’ll also bet that some southern states will come along, too, with some western ones to follow shortly...
But what is population per blue county?
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