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Creation - Holographic Universe...An Open Discussion On Existing
crystalinks.com ^ | 1/14/02 | Author Unknown

Posted on 01/14/2002 8:14:36 PM PST by My Favorite Headache

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To: John Locke
Do you see anywhere in this discussion where fractals might fit in?
61 posted on 01/14/2002 10:35:54 PM PST by d4now
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To: VERITAS25
I liked your article. I have some thought about how you could verify this.

We know that light imparts a certain amount of energy in it interaction. For example solar cells exhibit this phenomena. So if we assume that there is no real particle to light, which in Einstein terms means no rest mass, then light could only have a mass associated with its frequency. In this is the case we should see light of higher frequencies bend from a gravitational lens proportional to the frequency. We should be able to show that as the frequency approaches zero the bending of the light should also approach zero.

Are you aware on any studies that show the effects of an embryo development in an electric or magnetic fields? If the electric field plays a significant role in fetal development then a large or better yet an oscillating electric field should cause havoc in the embryo.

I once took a course on Applied Information Theory and the interesting thing I recall is that we applied principles of entropy and Fourier analysis to information. I was used to thinking of these things as in more classical physics terms. But now I see a correlation between light and information. It appears that you cannot exchange information without some transfer of energy and that energy is in effect information. I know the universe exists because the Universe tells me so.

62 posted on 01/14/2002 10:43:05 PM PST by LaFontaine
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To: My Favorite Headache
Good read for you physics nuts out there:


63 posted on 01/14/2002 11:03:23 PM PST by Rain-maker
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64 posted on 01/14/2002 11:04:08 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: d4now
Do you see anywhere in this discussion where fractals might fit in?

Well, no, I don't. But some people have seen in fractals a direct mathematical realisation of the Emerald Tablet's "as above, so below". You'll find some serious weird commentary on the holographic universe, complete with fractals, here. But beware! This is the contemporary end of a chain of speculation that leads back to Johannes Duns Scotus' Peri physeon, from which few emerge unscathed.

65 posted on 01/14/2002 11:14:33 PM PST by John Locke
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To: John Locke
Many thanks for the links.

If not here then, where do you see a place for the discussion of fractals?

66 posted on 01/14/2002 11:25:58 PM PST by d4now
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To: Dominic Harr
bump for re-reading.
67 posted on 01/14/2002 11:36:27 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Senator Pardek
Yes, this is for real. I think the hologram part is an artistic stretch, but the fact that particles "have an instant connection" has been verified ad nauseum.

It seems that this theory is being developed from the paradoxs found in quantum physics where weird stuff like events that happen before it starts are observed.

68 posted on 01/14/2002 11:55:41 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Alamo-Girl
last year I made the statement that gravity pulses were instantaneous in their effect across the universe based on research where sound was sent in a format that caused it to arrive BEFORE it was sent. It was on PBS and EVERY one of our brains here said I inhaled.

We will break the speed of light barrier as soon as we learn to change our model of the reality of existence... from the old to a newer vision. I think this is really interesting, and not surprising.

That all of creation is moving within a construct that supercedes our ability at present to fully grasp... is well, biblical in its implications.

God is real. God is light... and contains no darkness at all. Seems to me that everything in this universe revolves around our understanding of light and instantaneous characteristics of matter that is NOT really there... per se.

Strange. This life may be a dream, but whose?

GREAT stuff.

69 posted on 01/15/2002 12:09:17 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: VERITAS25
action at a distance makes distance itself a singularity... hence the capability to do things drastic to reality, even fold what we perceive as space, into singular points and variously blink in and out of existience at two very very distant points in the perceived universe. Instantly.

How can God claim to be bigger than the universe and smaller than a human heart, simultaneously? Such claims were not just some metaphysical rant by a cross dragging lunatic. It may just be His explanation of the nature of reality, in terms we could barely understand at that time.

I think hologram is a crude term for a concept that supercedes current models. I suspect it is truer than we care or dare to admit. How can God simultaneously be IN you and IN me, even if WE don't agree on who HE is, without us both being wrong or right? Maybe the way we see our universe is based only on what we can see hear and touch. The scientific method is loathe to admit there might be things beyond our taste touch sight and hearing, even though they KNOW it has progressively been true... only by finding it with a tool that shows it to them can they acknowlege what they refused yesterday to admit as a possibility.

We may yet extend life for centuries and travel to the stars... if we fail maybe it was our ideas and false assumptions that held us back... as has always been the case. The world they say, is FLAT.

70 posted on 01/15/2002 12:33:15 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: keri
The Rainbow does not exist without an observer.

Is this, perhaps, true for all of Reality?

71 posted on 01/15/2002 12:34:45 AM PST by Nogbad
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To: My Favorite Headache
The collective conscious or "unconscious" as some call it... God is closer than we can possibly imagine. And we are members of each other. Not so crazy really. Not so scary either.

Folks always want to be part of something bigger than themselves. Well, there you have it.

AS a concept, it may be more real than we can know.

72 posted on 01/15/2002 12:40:29 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: My Favorite Headache
bump for later consideration
73 posted on 01/15/2002 12:52:38 AM PST by Swordmaker
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75 posted on 01/15/2002 6:03:28 AM PST by nimdoc
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Bump for later.
76 posted on 01/15/2002 6:15:23 AM PST by StriperSniper
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To: VERITAS25
a huge BUMP!
77 posted on 01/15/2002 7:56:29 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: MissAmericanPie
There is a quote about illusions I love: "Illusions are painfully shattered right where discovery starts"
78 posted on 01/15/2002 7:58:00 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: ex-Texan
Have you seen the Christian Chronicles thread here? LOL...been going for what? 2 years? There is indeed some seriously deep thinking could be/actually are geniuses.
79 posted on 01/15/2002 7:59:43 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Post 69 you are hitting it right on here. Something tells me with the scientists and PHD's I have spoken with they are actually way more ahead on this then we are giving credit for. Some are saying that we should be able to crack the speed of light in 100 years. Question is do we already know what we will see?? Just the grand design of it all has not been cracked here. Just amazing.
80 posted on 01/15/2002 8:04:15 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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