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U.S. EBay Seller Refuses Canucks (France, Mexico, Germany too)
wired.com ^ | Mar. 25, 2003 | Charles Mandel

Posted on 03/25/2003 1:34:07 PM PST by cdefreese

VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- On eBay, the highest bid wins -- unless the item on sale is a laser printer from CompAtlanta and the bidder happens to be Canadian.

That's what a tax consultant discovered last week when he tried to buy a printer on eBay, but was refused by the vendor when it was discovered he lived in Vancouver.

David Ingram received notification that his winning bid of $24.50 had been canceled, along with this message: "At the present time, we do not ship to, or accept bids from, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany or any other country that does not support the United States in our efforts to rid the world of Saddam Hussein. If you are not with us, you are against us."

Ingram's .ca address sparked the notice from CompAtlanta, based in Lawrenceville, Georgia. Canada is one of a number of countries that said it would not support an American invasion of Iraq without United Nations' approval.

"I've made a winning bid,'' Ingram said. "To discriminate against me because I'm a Canadian is ridiculous."

Sid Mitchell, CompAtlanta's president, could not be reached for comment. However, an e-mail exchange between Ingram and Mitchell clearly laid out the company's policy: "What part of this listing do you not understand?" Mitchell wrote Ingram. "This item will not be shipped outside the USA, and we do not accept bids from Canadians. Both are plainly stated."

That didn't stop Ingram from trying again over the weekend. He bid for the laser printer a second time, offering $107.50 to avoid being outbid and specifying delivery to an American address. In a separate message, he informed Mitchell that he wanted the printer shipped stateside.

Judging by Mitchell's reply, however, Ingram isn't likely to get his printer from CompAtlanta: "You are obviously trying to get around the fact that you are Canadian," Mitchell wrote to Ingram, "and we will not honor your bid or ship to any location for you."

Ingram said Mitchell lacks a good business reason for not shipping to a Canadian who uses an American address. "If they're going to do that,'' Ingram said, "then they shouldn't sell to the 50 percent of Democrats and the 20 percent of Republicans that aren't supporting the war, either."

CompAtlanta is one of a small number of companies boycotting countries opposed to the war. The German newspaper Deutsche Welle reported late last week that a German shoe-supply manufacturer lost a contract with an American firm over Germany's stance on the war. There have also been reports of American consumers boycotting French wine and cheese.

But the boycotts aren't widespread yet. JoAnn Dupont, a customer service representative with eBay vendor IkeSound.com of Florida, said her company's policy of shipping to Canada and other countries has not changed as a result of the war.

And some eBay vendors selling such items as Saddam Hussein "terrorist hunting licenses" and dart boards will ship them anywhere in the world.

Andre Lemay, a spokesman for the Canadian department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade in Ottawa, said he wasn't aware of any reverse boycott. Nor did he believe such a boycott would be an issue, since Canada and the United States remain each others' two largest trading partners. "We still believe our relationship with the U.S. is good -- in fact, enviable,'' he said.

EBay spokesman Kevin Pursglove said CompAtlanta was the only eBay merchant he knew of that is boycotting buyers for reasons related to the war. He said sellers can decide with whom they want to do business, but eBay frowns on posting overtly political messages. Pursglove said eBay ordered CompAtlanta to remove the auction item and to modify its message to bidders from Canada, Mexico, France and Germany.

But CompAtlanta's message is still more or less intact, which incenses Ingram. He says he plans to pursue the matter with eBay.

He may also take it up in person with CompAtlanta. If he doesn't receive his printer before a scheduled trip south of the border later in the fall, Ingram says he'll pay the computer vendor a visit.

"If they don't send it,'' he said, "sometime in September or October I will park outside their store with a sign saying they discriminate against Canadians."

(Excerpt) Read more at wired.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Mexico; Miscellaneous; Technical; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: american; freepbay; patriot
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To: cdefreese
I've banned Canadians from bidding on my stuff before all the current cross-border stink started, simply because they are annoying late payers, who ALWAYS ask me to lie on the customs forms for them. They often whine about postage costs. I started to get the feeling most Canadians live below what Americans consider the poverty line.

I also waive shipping to APO addresses. Recommend others take up the practice. The least we can do.

21 posted on 03/25/2003 1:44:30 PM PST by rageaholic
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To: cdefreese
Does anyone know where I can find that funny t-shirt that says "Today Iraq Tomorrow France"?
22 posted on 03/25/2003 1:45:27 PM PST by Wifky
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To: All
An American hating website is soliticing its viewers to send hateful emails to CompAtlanta.

Show support via email:

http://www.compatlanta.com/contact.htm



23 posted on 03/25/2003 1:45:34 PM PST by Pro-Bush
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To: cdefreese
LOL. I dropped them a note of support.
24 posted on 03/25/2003 1:46:31 PM PST by Search4Truth (Power perceived, is power achieved.)
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To: cdefreese
FREEPED and a bump!! Finally a company not afraid to stand up for what is right. God bless them!!
25 posted on 03/25/2003 1:46:57 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: cdefreese
In somewhat related news, a source at the Baldwin compound expressed off the record cautious relief that Atlanta is now Canadian target #1.
26 posted on 03/25/2003 1:48:00 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Blame Canada, blame Canada, with all their beady little eyes, their flapping head so full of lies...)
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To: cdefreese
I've seen several eBay sellers using the notation: "I ship internationally - except to locations in France, Germany and Belgium". I sent those sellers supportive messages, even if I wasn't bidding on their items. Evidently Canada has been added to the "Axis of Weasle" for good measure.
27 posted on 03/25/2003 1:48:28 PM PST by Charles Martel
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To: cdefreese
Ingram said Mitchell lacks a good business reason for not shipping to a Canadian

It depends on whether Mitchell's policy is it's "nunya business."

28 posted on 03/25/2003 1:48:38 PM PST by A2J (Those who truly understand peace know that its father is war.)
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To: cdefreese
I did a search and found this:

http://www.compatlanta.com/eb.htm

Scroll down the web page and you'll see: "At the present time we will not honor bids from Canada, Mexico, France, Germany or any other country that does not support the United States in our efforts to rid the world of Saddam Hussein."

29 posted on 03/25/2003 1:49:21 PM PST by tuna_battle_slight_return
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To: Grig
We will gladly assist you and other Canadians should you wish to rid yourselves of your socialist government LOL!!
30 posted on 03/25/2003 1:51:03 PM PST by happygrl
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To: cdefreese
Just sent this reply:I have read of an instance where you have refused to ship a printer to Canada because of its government stance on the war with Iraq. I also read that this stance is applied to any country with the same stance as Canada. Let me say I a damn proud of your company and its position and for now on any computer products that I need to purchase, I will do through your company.

Thank you

name



31 posted on 03/25/2003 1:52:13 PM PST by A Texan (Lets finish the game.)
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To: Centurion2000
I'm local I think I will take them a flag out of our store.
32 posted on 03/25/2003 1:53:10 PM PST by doodad
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To: nevergore
"wear a sign that say's "beat me up and take my lunch money""

But his lunch money is in the currency of Canuckistan.
33 posted on 03/25/2003 1:53:47 PM PST by APBaer
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To: cdefreese
It was my pleasure to send these good folks a supportive e-mail. May I suggest others do the same?

Back to the top!

34 posted on 03/25/2003 1:53:55 PM PST by truthkeeper
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To: Coop
wagghhh
35 posted on 03/25/2003 1:54:33 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: cdefreese
I sent them a congratulatory email along with a promise to do business with them in the future. Thanx for posting this.
36 posted on 03/25/2003 1:55:04 PM PST by InHisImage
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Just called the company to show support and they were delighted to hear from me. Also told them about this thread (already knew about us...hehehehe) and they were happy to hear that we knew about this.....!
37 posted on 03/25/2003 1:55:31 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama
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To: cdefreese
My daughter was working for Dell in the months following 9/11 and they wouldn't fill orders for multiple computers to Middle Easterners without investigating the intended use.
38 posted on 03/25/2003 1:56:39 PM PST by Eva
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To: CheezyD
Ebay has the option to restrict sales to the United States, North America, or any selection of places. If I'm selling something, it's wholly up to ME who I wish to sell it to ... and if someone outside of the U.S. thinks that's "discrimination" -- well, it IS. Live with it.

Since the war began ALL of my auctions have been for sale to U.S. buyers only. I don't care to do business with the French or Germans (or Canadians, for that matter), and it's my right to do business with whom I choose.
39 posted on 03/25/2003 1:56:56 PM PST by Pravious
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To: cdefreese
USA to Ingram: Tough sh$$! Buy Canadian.
40 posted on 03/25/2003 1:58:10 PM PST by gramho12 (God bless our troops)
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