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Teens have right to have sex, lawyer argues (Huh?!?)
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 8.21.03 | JAMAAL ABDUL-ALIM

Posted on 08/21/2003 7:32:39 PM PDT by mhking

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To: Scenic Sounds
This all sounds so damned libertarian to me. Where, oh where will it stop?

Throwing kids in jail for consensual sex....hmmm.  Keep them locked
up until they're eighteen?  Hard cases make bad law.
21 posted on 08/21/2003 8:38:01 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
I'd lock them up together until they're eighteen.

That'd cure em. ;-)

22 posted on 08/21/2003 8:40:08 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Conservatism never really loses; it simply changes.)
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To: Lorianne
I think you're correct, and I also wouldn't be surprised to find out later that this was another ACLU setup, where they create a case to generate a new "constitutional right".
24 posted on 08/21/2003 8:46:47 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Lorianne
"The boy is being held in secure detention on a charge of attempted second-degree sexual assault, a felony that carries a possible juvenile prison term."

Complete abuse of power. This is tyrannical. The fact that nothing even happened between them is all the more alarming.

To treat two 14 year olds experiencing natural emotions as felons is sick.

The legal system is totally corrupt. There is no doubt.

25 posted on 08/21/2003 8:52:17 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: mhking
As previously stated, I'm from Wisconsin. I'm embarrassed about this defense attorney. He should have his ass kicked. Which is exactly what would have happened to me (no, worse would have happened) if my Dad would have found me in bed with my boyfriend (no matter 18 years of age or older) saying we going to have sex. I would not have lived. Dad would have killed us both. Just another example of how we are all sliding down the slippery slope and not doing a damn thing about it.
26 posted on 08/21/2003 8:54:41 PM PDT by giznort
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To: Gumption
Ah, well let's say howdy and tell folks to support a FREE REPUBLIC. Stay enjoy the place and we may even throw up a picture of Mary Carey and Ann Coulter to keep the interest "up". :-)

Support your local US Constitution


27 posted on 08/21/2003 8:54:52 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: 7th_Sephiroth
They Understand the concenquences, fathers, your daughters arent innocent little girls, they know what thier doing (and by the look of some of the girls at the mall) thier hookers.

In reading the story, the largest problem seems to be the kids' attitudes. Can you imagine being in your mother's face like that? Yes, I'm in your bed. Yes, I'm gonna have sex. Call the police, I dare ya.

What do you do with a kid like that? Now the problem may be that the mother is a wimpy authority and has caused her own problems. But the girl is staying out all night, was already on probation for who knows what, something needs to be done.

28 posted on 08/21/2003 8:54:52 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: KurtChicago
But it would be nice if those kids knew the consequences of a teen pregnancy."

The consequences are for a future on welfare and likely jail (just read the details, this girl is trouble waiting to happen) for which *I* will have to pay ... I say like lock the arrogant teenagers up. And spread the word to the 8th graders sex will get you busted.

29 posted on 08/21/2003 8:57:45 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: mhking
The state sanctions adolescent sexual explorations because the state will be there to provide the safety net for stupid adolescent decisions. Who are the parents to interfere?
30 posted on 08/21/2003 9:02:48 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: 7th_Sephiroth
"They Understand the concenquences,"

Alas, and again, the consequences' are paid for in trouble, blood and money by other people besides these irresponsible underaged kids. These kids are wholly without responsibility and will be JD and/or welfare cases in short order. Next stop - pregnancy. We *will* pay for thier sex acts. Failure to guide habits that are constructive leads to degradation and ultimately a lack of freedom by all.

"your daughters arent innocent little girls, they know what thier doing (and by the look of some of the girls at the mall) thier hookers." All the more reason to give societal support to stem the tide.



31 posted on 08/21/2003 9:02:50 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: 7th_Sephiroth
They Understand the concenquences, fathers, your daughters arent innocent little girls, they know what thier doing (and by the look of some of the girls at the mall) thier hookers.

So, since according to you "they understand the consequences," you have no problem with said parent throwing 14 year-old girl out of the house permanently for breaking mom's rules, correct? And you would agree that mom has no legal obligation to help support any bastard children conceived from said intercourse, right?

So long as any person is liable for a child's conduct, that child isn't "old enough to make decisions" unless the parent tells them they can...

32 posted on 08/21/2003 9:03:35 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Jesus saves... but Gretzky scores on the rebound!)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
"The legal system is totally corrupt. "

It is indeed. A clear violation of laws on the books and people are saying they shouldnt be punished. Go figure!
33 posted on 08/21/2003 9:04:18 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Dianna
Send 'em to BOOT CAMP!!!
And BTW what does DAD have to say about all this????
34 posted on 08/21/2003 9:05:05 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: mhking
This mother has obviously done a great job of raising her kid.
35 posted on 08/21/2003 9:07:07 PM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: gcruse
We should change our welfare policy so only those who think it's a "cool" idea to let kids have sex will pay for the billions in consequential welfare for the "results" of said irresponsible behavior.

You want to pretend teenaged kids are adults - YOU pay the bill!

36 posted on 08/21/2003 9:08:33 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
good point!

"you have no problem with said parent throwing 14 year-old girl out of the house permanently for breaking mom's rules, correct? And you would agree that mom has no legal obligation to help support any bastard children conceived from said intercourse, right?

So long as any person is liable for a child's conduct, that child isn't "old enough to make decisions" unless the parent tells them they can..."

Freedom without responsibility ... that aint libertarianism that's the Peter Pan ethic.
37 posted on 08/21/2003 9:10:28 PM PDT by WOSG
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"Court records reveal that both come from troubled backgrounds and struggle with the same issues, such as attention deficit disorder and parental abandonment."

"The reason I charged this case was because of their attitude," Kornblum says. "I believe they had to be brought before an authority."

"Not to punish the children, she said, but to help them through various court-ordered services. "

The state, in total Nazi emulation, will make these two kids not only felons, but will also take away all of their freedom and diagnose them with mental illnesses. It is so typical and so common now.

They will be forced to take mind altering drugs, the long term effects of which on children are unknown.

They will also be forced to accept reprogramming by leftist psychiatrists. The rights of their parents will be marginalized.

The full force of law enforcement, the court system, the medical sector will be brought down on them with crushing force. It is a conspiracy between these 3 groups- they all follow a pre-ordained script used before on other kids to subjugate all of their liberty.

Just like the ADD crime they perpetuate. The teacher, the courts, the school shrink set up 1000's of boys the same way with the same outcome. It is totally corrupt.

Leave the kids alone.
38 posted on 08/21/2003 9:10:41 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: WOSG
You want to pretend teenaged kids are adults - YOU pay the bill!

Throwing 14 year old kids in jail for consensual sex is
neo-wowserism run amok.
39 posted on 08/21/2003 9:12:28 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: mhking; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
Ping.
40 posted on 08/21/2003 9:13:12 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Carindal Arinze of Nigeria)
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