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Pope Francis Denies the Existence of Hell
Rorate Caeli | 03-29-2018

Posted on 03/29/2018 7:40:27 AM PDT by NRx

[Scalfari:] Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?

[Francis:] "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: frontpage; hell; isthepopecatholic; popefrancis; popefrancishell; thelastpope
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To: conservonator
If he truly believes that ther is no hell, he is a heretic and should be prayed for with great fervor, as we should do for all sinners.

Oh?

And what evidence will you bring before the court?

181 posted on 03/29/2018 6:09:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; Mrs. Don-o; ebb tide
I've been all over the religion threads, including the prayer threads, for roughly 20 years, and have never seen such a shocking and un-Catholic thing asserted, not even once.

>> Yet look at the title of this thread.<<

And let's not forget the seemingly endless threads posted by ebb railing against the pope. I daresay if a non-Roman Catholic were to post those what would the push back be?

More accusations of Catholic bashing??

182 posted on 03/29/2018 6:10:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Elsie
You said "Comment #39 Removed by Moderator" but here it is, it was not removed:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3643374/posts?page=39#39

183 posted on 03/29/2018 6:23:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (God is not the Author of Confusion, but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints --1 Cor 14:33)
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To: simpson96

There are some who say he is a false pope and Peter of Rome will the next pope after Benedict. Part of the reasoning is that popes cannot resign, as Benedict did. The real pope, Peter of Rome, will lead the church through Tribulation, according to some.

A friend thinks Francis may be Peter of Rome because it fits the idea of Alpha and Omega, the first and the last both being Peter (one called Peter by Jesus and the other called Peter by Malachy).


184 posted on 03/29/2018 6:33:14 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: circlecity

Actually, Pope Francis is less theologically reliable than almost any seminarian in any Catholic seminary in the world. IMHO.


185 posted on 03/29/2018 7:36:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (God is not the Author of Confusion, but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints --1 Cor 14:33)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Actually, Pope Francis is less theologically reliable than almost any seminarian in any Catholic seminary in the world. IMHO."

And that's why Sola Scriptura is such an essential doctrine.

186 posted on 03/29/2018 7:45:17 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: NRx

Did he? The “journalist” in question has admitted to essentially making things up before that the pope never said:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/popes-words-in-interview-may-not-have-been-his-own-scalfari-says


187 posted on 03/29/2018 7:59:31 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: NRx

A real break for this 71 year old


188 posted on 03/29/2018 8:00:43 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: circlecity

Nope. Sola Scriptura is un-Biblical.


189 posted on 03/29/2018 8:06:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Department of Redundancy Department.)
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To: Elsie

I wholeheartedly agree with that verse, and Bergoglio will answer to Christ at his Particular Judgment for the chaos and confusion that he’s sown.

Given that there have been numerous Christians of all denominations throughout the ages, of all stripes, who failed to live up to that exhortation, what’s your argument?


190 posted on 03/29/2018 8:19:21 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: circlecity

Given that the Bible didn’t exist in its canonical form until centuries after the death of Christ (and even then, most Protestant Bibles nowadays lack certain books that were present throughout Christendom for over a milennium), how would Sola Scriptura work out logistically amongst the illiterate and those whose only access to the Word of God was through the teaching of others?


191 posted on 03/29/2018 8:23:34 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: NRx; SkyDancer; LydiaLong; butlerweave; BBQToadRibs; outinyellowdogcountry; simpson96; ...
From EWTN (LINK)

"Vatican spokespersons have dismissed the texts of Scalfari as unofficial. In 2014, Fr. Federico Lombardi, past papal spokesperson, told CNA that “if there are no words published by the Holy See press office and not officially confirmed, the writer takes full responsibility for what he has written.”

"Pope Francis has previously spoken about the existence of hell in public speeches, including at a prayer vigil in March 2014.

"There he gave an address in which he said that members of the mafia should change their lives, “while there is still time, so that you do not end up in hell. That is what awaits you if you continue on this path.”


192 posted on 03/29/2018 8:28:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Confusion is mightier than the sword." Abbie Hoffman)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Given that the cannoncical bible existed from the moment it was written i’d Say you don’t have a clue what you are talking about.


193 posted on 03/29/2018 8:55:06 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; ealgeone
Context is completely lost on the Roman Catholic it seems.

The Apostle Paul wrote to the Romans who were called to be saints in the one holy catholic and apostolic Church, one body to which they belonged, and he called Abraham our father.

A wise man may allow there is something else to be learned from this than a simplistic forbidding of titles.

What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

Romans, Catholic chapter four, Protestant verse one,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

194 posted on 03/29/2018 8:55:47 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
“Nope. Sola Scriptura is un-Biblical.”

As are popes.

195 posted on 03/29/2018 8:57:25 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Then how come Martin Luther removed various books from his German translation that would go on to become the standard for Protestant Bibles? Was the Holy Spirit asleep at the wheel for all those years while those books were in there? Who gave him the authority to do so?

Should we have included the various other Gospels and Epistles that were floating around the Roman world at the time of the Apostles and their immediate successors and disciples? If not, who made the judgment call?

Clement’s First Epistle to the Corinthians was treated as canonical by many segments of Christianity up through the 5th century, but it’s not anymore. Similarly with the Didache. Why is that?

On whose authority was the Canon decided?


196 posted on 03/29/2018 9:36:52 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: BBQToadRibs

He is not bizarre. He is a Liberation Theologist, Communist with a capital C. This is what they picked him for, to end the Catholic Church as we have always known it.

Perhaps Francis is the AntiChrist or its presage.


197 posted on 03/29/2018 10:18:30 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sorry I confused folks.

I failed to indicate just WHICH thread it was from.

I did not mean this one...


198 posted on 03/30/2018 3:49:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Do you think GOD hears the prayers of your pope?


199 posted on 03/30/2018 3:50:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Actually, Pope Francis is less theologically reliable than almost any seminarian in any Catholic seminary in the world. IMHO.

Please; which is it?

200 posted on 03/30/2018 3:52:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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