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The Pre-Trib Rapture is Solid Biblical Truth. Here's Why.
Unsealed ^ | 9/7/18 | Hillary

Posted on 09/10/2018 9:22:16 AM PDT by amessenger4god

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1 posted on 09/10/2018 9:22:16 AM PDT by amessenger4god
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There is not one word supporting a pre-trib rapture to be found in the Bible.

But there is Paul’s massive declaration to the Thessalonians that there cannot be any rapture until a list of specific things have come to pass.

None of them have so far happened.


2 posted on 09/10/2018 9:25:34 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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By the way,we are one year into “Daniel’s 70th Sabbath.”

That means that in 6 years the gathering of the Bride of Yeshua will occur on the Day Of Trunpets, ending Satan’s tribulation of said bride.
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3 posted on 09/10/2018 9:30:48 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Agreed and I can count 50 friends in my past who wasted their lives all waiting for the Trib.
Now they are in their 60’s with nothing to show for it looking square in the face of poverty retirement.


4 posted on 09/10/2018 9:31:02 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: editor-surveyor

When I first became a Christian in 1981 I joined an AG church and was, by default, a Pre-Trib believer. Then I bothered to study it on my own. I became “mid-Trib”, which is more accurately described as “post tribulation, Pre wrath of God”.

But unlike most pre-trib believers I know, I understand that NONE of us really knows for sure. Just as nobody saw Jesus coming the way he did. NOBODY.

We are no different. We are no more “special”, though we are saved. :)

All this apocalyptic stuff is fun to study, but it is there for us to know when it happens, not to “predict the future”.


5 posted on 09/10/2018 9:34:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: amessenger4god

No, it’s not; it’s contrary to scripture; and your declaration does change that fact. http://westpalmbeachchurchofchrist.com/revelation-made-clear

http://bible.ca/rapture.htm


6 posted on 09/10/2018 9:37:56 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (The Truth does not require our agreement.)
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To: amessenger4god

TL;DR.

But I did read this. And this is the only part worth mentioning.

“Not a salvation issue”

And since this is true, all the rest of these opinions are immaterial.


7 posted on 09/10/2018 9:41:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Rats, RINO's and O-Tips. They all want Sessions to stay.)
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To: amessenger4god
Pray for pre, prepare for post. Overall, worrying about how the end times will play is pretty pointless compared to living for Christ every day.

Pastor wants to pack his Bible study, announce a 10 part study on the book of Revelation. Pastor wants some alone time, announce a Bible study on witnessing to your neighbor.

8 posted on 09/10/2018 9:43:30 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: amessenger4god; editor-surveyor

I agree with most of your analysis, esp. the pre-trib rapture. This is also supported by the Left Behind books and even moreso the book: The Truth Behind Left Behind [gives precise tribulation scriptures and explanations for each. So I mostly disagree with the prior post from Editor-Surveyor but that’s nothing new.

Will have to complete reading your entire post later tonight but I feel far too many believers think we are very near - mostly because it sells more books. I know it can happen at any time but I also now know that there are several thousand people groups, tribes, nations that have not yet heard the Gospel. Also 3 major signs of the end times are worldwide a) religion, b) monetary system, c) language that are not very close.

I must admit the pace of change far surpasses anything I’ve ever expected since my faith was born [1980], where each decade passes with more and more evil BUT...

IMHO we are still very far from all of these = most likely not in our lifetimes.


9 posted on 09/10/2018 9:43:34 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: mikeus_maximus

I can cut and paste huge articles with lots of scripture to support the OP, or utterly destroy it, depending on which way I want to go. :-D

My core understanding disagrees pretty strongly with the pre-trib concept, though. What i find interesting is that on Christian sites, whenever this subject comes up it’s pretty much always someone espousing Pre-Trib. The others of us seem to be less “sure” of the particulars.


10 posted on 09/10/2018 9:44:39 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Nailed it. :)

BTW, I think I’ve worked out how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, but I’m still doing some tests. Apparently barometric pressure can be an important factor.


11 posted on 09/10/2018 9:45:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: amessenger4god

Best to be pan-millennial.

Follow Christ and see how it pans out.

None of the positions must be believed for salvation.

That said, if I’m alive, I expect to meet the Lord in the air and always be with the Lord.


12 posted on 09/10/2018 9:46:10 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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“But unlike most pre-trib believers I know, I understand that NONE of us really knows for sure.”

My dad has been a fundamentalist, conservative Baptist preacher for 65 years. He says he's a pan millennist, it will all pan out in the end.

13 posted on 09/10/2018 9:48:15 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: fungoking

He says he’s a pan millennist, it will all pan out in the end.


Exactly! I used to bristle when people said that. And now I’m one of them. :-D


14 posted on 09/10/2018 9:50:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“pan-millennial”

Must be an old preacher joke.


15 posted on 09/10/2018 9:52:02 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: amessenger4god

A single named person with no bio so I can see what her built in biases are

No thanks

FYI not all agree with this notion


16 posted on 09/10/2018 9:54:10 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: cuban leaf

I like it


17 posted on 09/10/2018 9:57:34 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: cuban leaf; fungoking
The Correct Answer is D.

Amillennialsim

 

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18 posted on 09/10/2018 9:57:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Rats, RINO's and O-Tips. They all want Sessions to stay.)
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To: BrandtMichaels

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So you put your trust in the “Left Behind” comic book series?

Try reading the word of Yehova. Nothing therein supports any “Pre-Trib” anything.

The scriptures that pre-tribbers point to to justify their fake escape tell us exactly why it is not going to happen.


19 posted on 09/10/2018 10:00:42 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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If the Father does indeed take the 'church' out pre-trib....He owes a huge apology to the brothers and sisters who are dying NOW by the thousands for THEIR Faith..... ...where was their 'rapture'...... The Holy Spirit always will 'take you through' a tribulation....just as He has taken His people 'through' for over 2,000 years.....He's not going to change now.
20 posted on 09/10/2018 10:05:44 AM PDT by RevelationDavid (Jesus First, no matter the cost.)
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