Posted on 06/23/2020 11:55:25 AM PDT by JAG 5000
Because human beings are endorphin junkies. And experiencing something as beautiful releases endorphins. Keeps us relaxed.
“What are the odds of all of this occurring as a cosmic accident?”___Heartlander
Zero chances.
That’s interesting. I’m gonna have to read up on that one.
“Atheism is its own Religion.”___Elbook
Yes. Exactly!
Atheism functions, for all practical purposes, as a religion. Atheists deny that their Atheism is a religion, but if it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and looks like a duck — then it IS a duck.
Add this: “A rose by another name. is still a rose.”
By the way, the so-called “New Atheists”, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, and the late Christopher Hitchens is/was as “convert-seeking” as any Baptist Preacher.
We can rightly call Richard Dawkins the Rev. Richard Dawkins because he is out there to make converts to his Atheist Religion. By the way, the Atheist philosopher Michael Ruse said that Richard Dawkins made him ashamed to be an Atheist — and explained why. It was because of the outrageous ugly vicious hate-filled rants and attacks that Dawkins made against all people of Faith.
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“I’d like to see a good, science backed explanation for what causes a splitting cell in a fetus to suddenly say, “I’m gonna start building an eyeball”__Cuban Leaf
Yah. Me too.
When you bottom line Atheists .. they believe “S-it Happens”
“I look at the untold millions of
objects that have been made and
thank Allah for Muslims and Africans
who made them all.”___Responsibility2nd
Whadda ‘bout China?
Most of that stuff in Walmart Stores
was made by the Chinese. I don’t
think America gets a huge amount of
stuff from Africa. Maybe later.
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I don't know if that had any effect...she's a smart kid so who knows!
“However, the bigger question is how were humans created from nothing? Some intelligent being had to create the design for a Big Bang to even occur, if the Big Bang is their retort back. Without matter, there are no building blocks to create anything else.
The odds of something self generating itself out of nothing are so astronomical as to be completely beyond the capabilities of even the fastest, strongest computer available. The odds of that generation then leading to the creation of numerous stars and planets, all of whom share the same basic design, lessen the odds even more. Then the creation of at least one of those planets to create the conditions and environment to sustain lifeforms of many different kinds, adds an exponential number to the odds that are beyond the grasp of any human being.
No, the Universe and all that make it up were accomplished by the intelligent design of one who contains a far superior ability to think in a greater fashion than all humans on the earth if all could be combined to become one.___Robert DeLong
Robert,
That was well written.
I read that carefully.
Very helpful points.
Much apprecited.
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I borrowed from Wikipedia. That’s a good starting place.
““When I in awesome wonder
Consider all
The works Thy Hand hath made,”
....
Maybe billions of years and
chance form mountains and
sunsets and tree forms, but
why do we look at them and
see beauty?
Beauty even in what is dangerous,
storms and deserts, oceans and
ice bergs and cliffs? Beauty in
the tiny and useless, a snow
flake, a leaf hopper, the
exquisite seed shell of a
conch in egg case?___Heartwood
Beautiful.
Magnificent.
I like that.
“Just discovered recently that
my 15 year old great niece is
an atheist. During the family
gathering during which I
learned this I said to her...
calmly and respectfully (both
she and her mom are great kids)
...”OK then,explain Jupiter”.
I don’t know if that had any
effect...she’s a smart kid so
who knows!___GSC
* Can you even be an atheist at age 15?
* Is there any such thing as an atheist?
* I mean really?
* Romans 1:18 -20 says No.
{and explains why}
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I'm with ya.
“I’d like to see where something
meaningful ever came out of chaos
without intelligence directing
it. It doesn’t just seem to
magically organize itself”
___Familair Face
Yeah, me too.
Good way to phrase it.
“Nucleosynthesis in stars and their explosions later produced the variety of elements and isotopes that we have today, in a process called cosmic chemical evolution.”
What about the rules that allow that to happen? The rules that are so sublimely precise and organized that we were able to unravel them into a nice, tidy “periodic” table and even use what we learned of those rules to predict new elements that nobody saw before? Did those rules randomly pop out of an exploding star too? Or does that perhaps require a bit more intelligent of an explanation?
They can’t. My brother-in-law hates God. So no matter what the evidence, his hate overrides his logic. Pretty sad.
Well, there could be an even more intelligent designer that made the intelligent designer. However, that’s just moving the goalposts. Eventually, the only logical possibility that you are left with is: if there is an intelligent creator, they must be eternal, pre-existing everything else; the only thing in existence that is uncreated. Which, after all, is logical, because if everything is created, then that includes time, so whatever created that must exist outside of time.
“especially not the clutter in my home”
Well, you’re missing the “deep time” part of the equation. You have to not clean for at least a few million years before you can expect all that junk to start self-organizing.
See I can have my moments of seriousness as well. Actually I think my moments of jesting are far and few between. Thanks you for the kind words. 8>)
“Look at all the different animal
species and you know that there
was a god and he had his hand
in it! Without god there would
be no earth, no air, or water
or the sun which makes our
planet livable!”___Tallyhoe
Add to that all the millions of
different kinds of material objects
that have existed and do now exist
throughout the world.
Material objects that allow us to
do the world’s work and to relax
and enjoy life. All that was not
produced by non-intelligent
natural processes.
The entire Universe is fine-tuned.
The earth, Sun, and Moon are in the
needed position to one the other,
making life on earth possible.
Romans 1: 18-20 says that all men
know that there is a God because of
what is seen in nature. This is the
germ principle of the Teleological
Argument for the existence of God.
Romans 1:18 says that some men
“suppress” this knowledge.
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