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May I Attend SSPX Masses?
The Fatima Center ^ | July 6, 2020 | Kennedy Hall

Posted on 07/07/2020 4:17:30 PM PDT by ebb tide

May I Attend SSPX Masses?

Editor’s Note: The simplest answer is that, YES, Catholics may attend Mass and receive Holy Communion at the chapels of the Society of St. Pius X without incurring any penalty, stigma or sin. As this is an involved topic, one article would be too long to cover this subject matter. Hence we will be posting these articles as a series over numerous days. We will cover such issues as schism, “full communion,” valid and licit sacraments, true obedience, Vatican II, excommunication and more. If you are interested in these topics, please read on!

Part I – The SSPX Is Not in Schism

With the recent coronavirus problem, many faithful Catholics are faced with a dilemma in their parish. In some cases there are restrictions being imposed on the functionality of the liturgy that make it virtually impossible for someone to attend their usual Mass in good conscience. Everything from registering for attendance, to being required to wear masks, to banning music, to great limitations in seating capacity, and even suspension of receiving Holy Communion reverently (kneeling and on the tongue) have been imposed nearly everywhere.

As a result, many are wondering if they may attend their local Society of Saint Pius X chapel. Here at The Fatima Center, we have worked with good priests of the SSPX in the past, so perhaps it would be helpful to clarify their situation to enable our readers to make a more informed decision.

Admittedly, the Internet is loaded with a range of dissenting opinions. Even if you ask your average parish priest, or even priests who offer the Traditional Latin Mass, you will encounter an array of answers. I have personally heard from various priests everything from: “They are like the Lutherans,” “They are schismatic like the Orthodox,” “Their Masses are fine, but I wouldn’t recommend them,” “It is no issue; in fact, [Archbishop] Lefebvre was probably a Saint,” “Yes, I encourage you to attend there,” and everything in-between. Some have called the SSPX a “cult,” others have accused them of acting like the only ark of salvation, and others have said they don’t accept any popes since St. Pius X. Many of these claims are outright calumnies. Clearly, it is impossible for all these claims – some actually conflicting with others – to be true all at the same time; therefore, clarity is needed.

Here is a collection of frequently asked questions which I think cover virtually any quandary or objection someone may put forth about the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X. (Please note, these are my own words and should not be seen as an ‘official’ statement by any other entity.)
 

What is the SSPX?

The SSPX is a priestly fraternity canonically erected by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre for the purpose of maintaining and propagating the Traditions of the Catholic Faith and preserving the holy priesthood by forming and supporting good priests.
 

Are they in schism?

No. This is an easy and clear-cut answer.[1] Those who respond otherwise are grossly misinformed. In fact, even if the excommunication of their four bishops in 1988 (more on that later) were taken at face value, they have now been authoritatively made null and void.[2] Moreover, those excommunications never applied to the hundreds of priests in the Society or to the faithful who receive the sacraments or pastoral care from them.

Being in schism is a formal term.[3] In essence, it means one rejects the truth that the pope has universal authority over the Church (or that a bishop has authority over his diocese). Practically, this means a schismatic group sets up or adheres to their own authorities, denying the ecclesial jurisdiction and even canonical law of the Catholic Church. Liturgically, it means they will not pray for the pope or the local bishop in the Roman Canon. The SSPX is not guilty of these schismatic acts.

Now even excommunication is not sufficient for one to be in schism. For example, one could be personally excommunicated for some crime, yet one is not thereby placed under the authority of some other church or religious group. Only the proper authority can make such a claim; and Cardinal Castrillón Hoyos, while president of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei (the papal-mandated Vatican congregation dealing with the SSPX), made it clear they are not in schism. He did this more than once.[4]

It is well known that Cardinal Castrillón Hoyos said in an interview, “[I]t cannot be said in correct, exact, and precise terms that there is a schism.”[5] Unfortunately, this verbiage can be confusing on account of the negative phrasing. The same thing said with positive phrasing would be: ‘To say the SSPX is in schism is incorrect, inexact and imprecise.’

Being in schism is a binary matter – you either are in schism or you are not. There is no in-between. Our Lord tells us, “But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil” (Matthew 5:37). Cardinal Castrillón Hoyos did affirm, “To say the SSPX is in schism is incorrect.” Any other answer is a foggy attempt to present what is in reality an imperfect and difficult situation as something other than it is.

Furthermore, even Pope Benedict, when he was Cardinal Ratzinger, admonished a bishop in Hawaii in 1991 for wrongly excommunicating families from his diocese who had their children confirmed by the SSPX.[6] Benedict made it clear that there was no schism.[7]
 

They may not be in schism, but aren’t they “schismatic”?

When someone makes this assertion, they seem to be playing with words. A serious problem with our manner of speaking today is imprecision and using terms without properly defining them. (Incidentally, this is a hallmark of modernism and a modus operandi of today’s ecclesial ‘dialogue’.) How is the word “schismatic” being used in such an assertion?

Schism and schismatic should mean the same thing; we simply have a noun and an adjective form of the same word (concept). For example, to say that a breakaway church, like the Russian Orthodox, is “schismatic” is the correct usage.

However, to infer that a group of Catholics are “schismatic” because they have an “attitude” that reflects schism is, in fact, casting a judgment upon the interior life of every single person in that group. As disciples of Christ, we are called to judge objective external acts but we are to refrain from judging the internal spiritual disposition of a soul. In this case, the objective external act is “schism” and the proper Church authority has judged that the SSPX is not in schism. None of us should then presume to judge the “internal attitude” of this or that person in that group, let alone of the entire group at large.

Rather, we should deal with fellow Catholics as St. Thomas Aquinas so eloquently says: “…unless we have evident indications of a person’s wickedness, we ought to deem him good, by interpreting for the best whatever is doubtful about him.”

Some have argued that while the SSPX might not be in formal schism, they are in material schism. We will deal with that more technical issue in the next article of this series.


[1] This is confirmed by Edward Cardinal Cassidy, President Emeritus of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, who declared in an official letter (Prot. N. 2336/94) dated May 3, 1994: “’I would point out at once that the Directory on Ecumenism is not concerned with the Society of St. Pius X. The situation of the members of this Society is an internal matter of the Catholic Church. The Society is not another Church or Ecclesial Community in the meaning used in the Directory.” The Suicide of Altering the Faith in the Liturgy [hereafter, SAFL], p. 166.

[2] The “excommunication” of the four bishops consecrated by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer (of Campos, Brazil) on June 30, 1988, which had been declared by the Congregation for Bishops in a decree dated July 1, 1988, and which the Society of St. Pius X had always contested, was withdrawn by a decree (presented here) mandated by Benedict XVI and issued by the same Congregation on January 21, 2009.

[3] Canon 751 defines schism as the “refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with members of the Church subject to him”. It is not merely a simple refusal of subjection to papal or other ecclesiastical authority, but rather it is a rejection, “an adamant refusal to submit to the Pope or to remain in communion”. (SAFL, pp. 121-122.)

[4] In fact, Cardinal Castrillón Hoyos clarified this three times. In 2005, regarding the 1988 consecrations done without pontifical mandate, he stated that it created a “situation of separation … even if it [the SSPX] was not a formal schism.” (“Rapprochement by unhasty stages, but not too slow either”) Again in 2005, that in a 2004 meeting between Pope Benedict XVI and Bishop Fellay (then Superior General of the SSPX), it was stated, in Castrillón Hoyos words: “It cannot be said in correct, exact, and precise terms that there is a schism. … They are within the Church…” (“They are within the Church”) Then, in 2007, Castrillón Hoyos stated that the SSPX priests and adherents “are not schismatics” because: “It is Lefebrve who has undertaken an illicit Episcopal consecration and therefore performed a schismatic act. It is for this reason that the Bishops consecrated by him have been suspended and excommunicated. The priests and faithful of the society have not been excommunicated.” (“The President of the Ecclesia Dei Commission, Cardinal Hoyos hopes for reconciliation with the Society of St Pius X”). [Cited at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_situation_of_the_Society_of_Saint_Pius_X#cite_note-20]

[5] This is the second quote cited in the previous footnote.

[6] “On June 28, 1993, the ruling of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, communicated that the six individuals in question, adherents and supporters of the Society of St. Pius X, did not perform ‘schismatic acts in the strict sense as they do not constitute the offence of schism; and therefore the Congregation holds that the Decree of May 1, 1991 (the decree of excommunication) lacks foundation and hence validity.’” (SAFL, pp. 165-166.)

[7] There is a hierarchy of authority in the Church. The Pope has supreme and universal authority over every diocese. Thus, if he, or the Vatican congregation to whom he entrusts his authority in a particular matter, says a particular group is not in schism, then a local bishop may not proclaim the opposite.


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To: Alberta's Child

Who’s more worried about the police than their own soul?


21 posted on 07/07/2020 5:30:08 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
The bishops are not subject to civil authorities in these matters. Even in a secular nation like the U.S., churches have won nearly every court case where they challenged a COVID-19 shutdown order by governors or mayors.

Priests ARE subject to the orders of their bishops. They take a vow of obedience when they are ordained.

22 posted on 07/07/2020 5:33:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: steve86

Not interested. I don’t believe you


23 posted on 07/07/2020 5:34:02 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Something happens to SSPX people. They falsely accuse others of lying?????


24 posted on 07/07/2020 5:35:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ebb tide

Nobody should be. In an individual case involving a priest and a parishioner you’d be right. But history is filled with examples of churches shutting down during major pandemics and other disasters. An order by a civil authority to close a church is not inherently wrong. It IS, however, a problem when the civil authority allows liquor stores and Walmart stores to open but insists on closing churches.


25 posted on 07/07/2020 5:36:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: ebb tide
I understand that, although I find it somewhat interesting that the SSPX bishops requested that the excommunications be lifted. (It's the SSPX, after all, who insists that the excommunications were never valid.)

In any event, the lifting of the four excommunications as a gesture of goodwill is in no way, shape, or form to be taken as a retraction of Pope John Paul II's position on Lefebvre's act of disobedience, or of the bishops' participation in it.

26 posted on 07/07/2020 5:38:19 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: ebb tide

Just to be clear ... My comments here specifically apply to cases where bishops accepted civil orders to shut down even when those orders represented clear constitutional violations.


27 posted on 07/07/2020 5:38:55 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: Alberta's Child
Although in fairness to the SSPX, it's safe to say that "obedience" isn't something that they're hung up on.

(I mean, if Lefebvre could disobey the Pope, what weight would an SSPX priest give to his own ordinary?)

28 posted on 07/07/2020 5:41:14 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: mosesdapoet

There is St Pius V Chapel, 425 Grand Ave, Mukwonago WI 5319

I have not been there, but I met the priest and we talked for a while. Latin Mass.


29 posted on 07/07/2020 5:42:21 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Captain Walker

Exactly. LOL.


30 posted on 07/07/2020 5:43:32 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: Alberta's Child
Obedience

St Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae:

Reply to Objection 3. Religious profess obedience as to the regular mode of life, in respect of which they are subject to their superiors: wherefore they are bound to obey in those matters only which may belong to the regular mode of life, and this obedience suffices for salvation.

How does prohibiting Holy Mass and the sacraments suffice for salvation?

31 posted on 07/07/2020 5:47:26 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: mosesdapoet
Check out the Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest; they have churches in Wisconsin and in Illinois.

And unlike the SSPX, these priests actually have permission from Rome to offer the Mass.

32 posted on 07/07/2020 5:47:31 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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BTW, I used to vigorously defend SSPX from attacks by Black Elk (rest his soul), but I wouldn’t anymore.


33 posted on 07/07/2020 5:51:38 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Captain Walker

The lifting of prior pope’s excommunications is definitely a retraction.

I don’t care how you try to spin it otherwise.


34 posted on 07/07/2020 5:53:45 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Captain Walker

Lefebvre was true to the Church while disobeying the Pope du jour; while the SSPX today has gone its own way, Lefebvre has been completely vindicated (and Benedict XVI indicated as much).


35 posted on 07/07/2020 5:54:18 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ebb tide
How does allowing Holy Mass in a situation where attendees may be in jeopardy advance anyone’s salvation?

You do know that there is no obligation to attend Mass in a blizzard (for example) — don’t you?

36 posted on 07/07/2020 5:57:56 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: ebb tide
Who makes the decision as to what is an unlawful order that "harms the sacramental life of Catholics"?

If a bishop suspended the obligation to attend Mass in response to a natural disaster and ordered the churches in his diocese closed to prevent anyone from venturing out to attend Mass, one could argue that he is "harming the sacramental life of Catholics", as people would not be able to attend Mass or confession at that time.

But the bishop is concerned with both the spiritual and physical welfare of the people in his diocese. People (at least, those of us outside of the SSPX) recognize the authority of the bishop when he makes such a call. And while the closing of a church make not make much sense to the person who lives next door to it, the person next door to the church presumably has enough of an imagination to realize that others would be driving 30 or more miles to get to that church.

37 posted on 07/07/2020 5:59:42 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: kearnyirish2
Had Lefebvre been true to the Church, he would have recognized the authority of the Pope and obeyed him.

Lefebvre died an excommunicate, my friend; let's not forget that.

38 posted on 07/07/2020 6:02:16 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: ebb tide

Show me anything in writing where the Pope acknowledged a mistake on the previous pontiff’s part. (I’ll save you the time; there isn’t anything.)


39 posted on 07/07/2020 6:05:13 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: Captain Walker
Who makes the decision as to what is an unlawful order that "harms the sacramental life of Catholics"?

God, the Father does. Have you heard of His Third Commandment?

40 posted on 07/07/2020 6:24:35 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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