Posted on 06/23/2023 7:15:28 PM PDT by MurphsLaw
Interesting discussion on why today's men
have found a niche for seeking out answers
to the questions needing answers they seek.
In that, the popularity of the likes of Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson
are explained in the article that is discussed.
This is not to detract from or demean these Modern day self-help gurus-
but shed some light on why this new "spiritual" vibe has taken center stage in secular culture.
25 min YouTube video link below:
(Discussion starts at 4 min. Mark-
Ends around the 30 min. Mark.)
Why Modern Men Look Elsewhere For Spiritual Wisdom
From Aristotle, the Stoics and the place of virtue in our life,
This q & a gives a reason to examine our own spiritual guidance.
In a nutshell, when society is obedient to God, you make life easier for each subsequent generation until it is almost paradise.
However, with life getting better, we become self-sufficient. When we become self sufficent, we become arrogant and wanting to go our way. That’s when we become the society that we are now.
It is also our doom.
2 Commandments: Prefer God, be kind.
“. . . Look Elsewhere . . .”
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He damns with faint praise.
Peterson's extended lecture series on Genesis and Exodus using a psychological and neuro-science interpretation is more studied, relevant and faith-forming than anything I have ever heard coming from 21st century Catholic Priest of Christian preacher.
Because they’re sinners?
Their natural state before God saves their souls?
Love God and love your neighbor as yourself.
Isn’t Peterson an atheist though? I’ve noticed he is very careful in his words to not imply that he believes the Bible is actually true, only that Western culture is built on the idea.
I know Rogan is godless. I can’t say I’m a fan of either of them because they seem to be like Oprah but for men.
Their discussion between them on contemporary existentialism juxtaposing Christianity
was as relevant as any I have listened to as well.
From the Christian perspective however, after all the discussion,
We need a Savior
We cannot save ourselves from worldly sin.
These popular speakers attracting followers has a real potential for personal collapse if the reliance is on self-help is the means to achieve a greater good.
AA's 12 step program was a good analogy for a required higher power in our lives.
So I didn't see it as much as damning,
as I do see these modern day guru's as potentially
ineffective in getting the followers to their final goal.
Peterson’s daughter is apparently a Christian. She might be a good influence on him. We should pray for him.
That has never been proven.
I think the proof is in the pudding. We are being disobedient, because there is no reason to be obedient.
M-
Did you watch Jordan Peterson’s recent interview of BB during Peterson’s podcast.
As One Guy sits here, he can’t remember exactly which essential aspect of ancient and immovable Catholic doctrine that Barron whiffed on while being interviewed by Peterson. But he does remember howling like an injured wolf when it happened.
Your guy has a nasty habit of unnecessarily giving up acres of hallowed ground when he has the chance to speak on the record with certain people who, like Peterson and Shapiro have been doing, are “trending” in North American culture.
Some football player said psychedelic mushrooms is where he finds fspiritual wisdom.
Jordan Peterson is a bipolar tradcon cuck. Hes wound up making himself nuts. And tearing up/crying to make a point in a discussion isn’t how men or women make points and convince people of what they are saying.
My reply was based more on the premise of “when society is obedient to God, you make life easier for each subsequent generation until it is almost paradise”. For that, we have no evidence or proof.
I noticed in YouTube videos re:Peterson that the thumbnail has him tearing up or crying. I haven’t seen him do this and wondered why they portray him that way.
Wisdom? How about wives?
Good times make soft men.
Soft men make bad times.
Bad times make hard men.
Hard men make ...
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