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Chuck Hagel is Partly Right, But...
08/22/05 | vanity

Posted on 08/22/2005 5:25:34 PM PDT by genefromjersey

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To: Uncle Vlad

Don't apologize. Get even. You have a number of good conservative Republicans in nebraska. front a challenge in his next primary.


41 posted on 08/22/2005 6:08:54 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: genefromjersey

The US Military has overthrown the ruling regimes in both Afghanistan and Iraq, how can this compare to Viet Nam, when North Viet Nam's regime stayed in power and ultimately took over the south?


42 posted on 08/22/2005 6:09:04 PM PDT by wrathof59 ("to the Everlasting Glory of the Infantry".........Robert A Heinlein)
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To: beandog

The amazing thing is that despite all that has happened, the place is still holding together.


43 posted on 08/22/2005 6:09:39 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: wrathof59

Well, we haven't overthrown the Iranis, yet. I am sure that the military has been disappointed by the turmoil, because they hoped to set up a friendly government which would allow us to have a few bases in order to put pressure on the Mullahs and the Syrians. We may just have to put our bets on the Kurds, and if the Turks object, tell them we will be even handed, just as we have been them and the Greeks.


44 posted on 08/22/2005 6:13:18 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: genefromjersey
 
 

Hagel thinks we are losing in Iraq, yet he doesn't explain how he arrives at this decision.

  • Has he given us a list of battles we have lost?

  • Has he listed the vast improvements to schools, electric grid, water infrastructure etc. that can be laid at the feet of these terrorists.

  • Are Iraqi's walking around with OBL T-shirts on, or Yankee Go Home bumper stickers.

  • Have the rebels lost fewer "troops" (if I may use that word here) than we have?

  • What areas of the country are being governed by these "winners?"

I'd vote for John Kerry before this guy. At least Kerry has a reason for being stupid.

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45 posted on 08/22/2005 6:13:56 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Liberals believe common sense facts are open to debate!)
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To: genefromjersey

It's a popular opinion to voice a strategy to cut and run? Not even in the questionable polling date have they managed to produce that as a consensus among the American people.

So what if hagel fought in war. So did Hackett. So did Kerry. So did Benedict Arnold. So did McCain. Hell, al Zarquawi is fighting in a war and coincidentally seems to sound a lot like Senator Hagel. I wouldn't trust any one of them to tell me the Truth.

I appreciate the end of your post. Good points about the cambodians left to die. Good points about the media and sefishness of draft dodgers. Good point he'd love us to fail to prove him a wise sage in his run for the W.H. But let's not give Hagel due elsewhere as being more "right" than we because he once served, nor swallow the MSM propaganda about whether people want to run.


46 posted on 08/22/2005 6:14:04 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Ostlandr
 
 
""The Iraq war is just like Vietnam- except that we've captured Ho Chi Minh, we're occupying Hanoi, and they've had their first Democratic elections."

LOL, that sums it up pretty well...

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47 posted on 08/22/2005 6:18:30 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Liberals believe common sense facts are open to debate!)
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To: Coop
Thank you for your service to our country. Not much, I know, but it's something I hope I never forget to say to a veteran.

Another issue: it's not and never has been the American public whose nerve falters. It's always the delusional boneheads in the political class involved in the big circle jerk of defeatism with the media who start acting like hysterical children.

Yet somehow the men and women in the services and their families who bear the highest toll and who far and way come from far more modest backgrounds than the political dilletantes of DC never lose sight of the goal and bear every burden with quiet dignity and stoic resolve.

Maybe Hagel should take his counsel from them before he dishonors all of us and above all those who made the supreme sacrifice for their own and another people's freedom.

48 posted on 08/22/2005 6:26:50 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: WildTurkey
Tom Hayden on O'Reilly praised Sen. H for his stand.

Joan Baez in Crawford, Hayden on Fox, Jane Fonda on a bus tour, does it get any better than this?

These are the best reps of the DUmmies you could ever hope for, where's Michael Moore?

ROTFLMAO

49 posted on 08/22/2005 6:31:18 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: jdm
The demon left assumes that a majority who are dissatisfied with the war means a majority who want defeat. That is logical fallacy but a clever rhetorical trick.

Support for the war would probably climb double digits if some rathole like Haditha was raised to the ground and its inhabitants 'left a feast for birds and dogs.' But because both the President and the military commanders realize this war must be fought step-by-step to bring the Iraqis up to speed, nothing will be done-- neither retreat nor retribution-- that will endanger the primary goal.

50 posted on 08/22/2005 6:31:24 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: Coop

Watch for a "I didn't really say what I said" statement from this fool when he gets through reading his mail...


51 posted on 08/22/2005 6:31:54 PM PDT by decal ("The Republic was not established by cowards, and cowards will not preserve it")
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To: pierrem15
Thank you for your service to our country. Not much, I know, but it's something I hope I never forget to say to a veteran.

Actually, it means a lot, and I certainly appreciate it. I remember first hearing G. Gordon Liddy years ago thanking each and every veteran who called into his radio show. It made a lasting impression on me.

52 posted on 08/23/2005 3:47:56 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: decal
Watch for a "I didn't really say what I said" statement from this fool when he gets through reading his mail...

I doubt it. He's been saying this garbage for months now. It's a cold, calculated left turn, at the expense of our men and women in uniform.

53 posted on 08/23/2005 3:48:51 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Soul Seeker

For all of you who posted: I should have waited until today to post this piece, as I have made a few changes that increase the clarity of what I was trying to say.

I will be putting the edited piece on my website this AM:

http://mrmeangenesnews.blogspot.com

Thanks for the constructive commentary !


54 posted on 08/23/2005 4:40:01 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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