Posted on 08/22/2005 5:25:34 PM PDT by genefromjersey
Chuck Hagel is Partly Right , but
Senator Chuck Hagel has been drawing favorable reviews from the Mainstream Media for a change - because the Nebraska Republican says Iraq has become another Vietnam ; and that we should just get out of there the sooner the better.
I respect the Senators opinion. He is a combat veteran, and knows more about war than most of us would ever care to hear.
Moreover , he is voicing an increasingly popular sentiment . Most of us would like very much for this whole thing to be over : a sentiment that reminds me of the Vietnam era.
Thats where the Senator and I begin to part company !
Then as now there was a Media crusade to end the war. There were peace demonstrations that evolved into riots : sparked then as they are now by radical activists : whose politely-overlooked goal was the destruction of the United States via left-wing coup detat.
There was a group called Weatherman that set off bombs ,robbed banks, and killed people. There were assorted race-based groups that did just about anything they could to anybody they could (and were hailed in the media as crusaders for equality).
There was a draft and there were young people who had the financial resources , or the connections to evade it. Many crossed the border into Canada. One ( who became a US President ) managed to stay in England by joining and then resigning from a Reserve unit.
This meant the burden of fighting the war fell on the poor and powerless: Folks these same draft evaders professed to love.
There were super-annuated students, who took over college campuses all across the country : making it nearly impossible for those who were real students and who were busting their humps to pay college costs - to complete their schooling, and get on with their lives again, to the delight of the Media.
In short, the 60s and 70s were VERY bad times ; and, at the end , we decided to cut and run : leaving the Vietnamese and Cambodians to their fate.
It was a very nasty fate , and it was duly documented by the Media which decreed it was all OUR fault. We really shouldnt have built their hopes for freedom up in the first place .
Is this what you have in mind for the people of Iraq, Senator Hagel ?
Should we cut and run to facilitate your re-election campaign ?
Don't apologize. Get even. You have a number of good conservative Republicans in nebraska. front a challenge in his next primary.
The US Military has overthrown the ruling regimes in both Afghanistan and Iraq, how can this compare to Viet Nam, when North Viet Nam's regime stayed in power and ultimately took over the south?
The amazing thing is that despite all that has happened, the place is still holding together.
Well, we haven't overthrown the Iranis, yet. I am sure that the military has been disappointed by the turmoil, because they hoped to set up a friendly government which would allow us to have a few bases in order to put pressure on the Mullahs and the Syrians. We may just have to put our bets on the Kurds, and if the Turks object, tell them we will be even handed, just as we have been them and the Greeks.
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It's a popular opinion to voice a strategy to cut and run? Not even in the questionable polling date have they managed to produce that as a consensus among the American people.
So what if hagel fought in war. So did Hackett. So did Kerry. So did Benedict Arnold. So did McCain. Hell, al Zarquawi is fighting in a war and coincidentally seems to sound a lot like Senator Hagel. I wouldn't trust any one of them to tell me the Truth.
I appreciate the end of your post. Good points about the cambodians left to die. Good points about the media and sefishness of draft dodgers. Good point he'd love us to fail to prove him a wise sage in his run for the W.H. But let's not give Hagel due elsewhere as being more "right" than we because he once served, nor swallow the MSM propaganda about whether people want to run.
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Another issue: it's not and never has been the American public whose nerve falters. It's always the delusional boneheads in the political class involved in the big circle jerk of defeatism with the media who start acting like hysterical children.
Yet somehow the men and women in the services and their families who bear the highest toll and who far and way come from far more modest backgrounds than the political dilletantes of DC never lose sight of the goal and bear every burden with quiet dignity and stoic resolve.
Maybe Hagel should take his counsel from them before he dishonors all of us and above all those who made the supreme sacrifice for their own and another people's freedom.
Joan Baez in Crawford, Hayden on Fox, Jane Fonda on a bus tour, does it get any better than this?
These are the best reps of the DUmmies you could ever hope for, where's Michael Moore?
ROTFLMAO
Support for the war would probably climb double digits if some rathole like Haditha was raised to the ground and its inhabitants 'left a feast for birds and dogs.' But because both the President and the military commanders realize this war must be fought step-by-step to bring the Iraqis up to speed, nothing will be done-- neither retreat nor retribution-- that will endanger the primary goal.
Watch for a "I didn't really say what I said" statement from this fool when he gets through reading his mail...
Actually, it means a lot, and I certainly appreciate it. I remember first hearing G. Gordon Liddy years ago thanking each and every veteran who called into his radio show. It made a lasting impression on me.
I doubt it. He's been saying this garbage for months now. It's a cold, calculated left turn, at the expense of our men and women in uniform.
For all of you who posted: I should have waited until today to post this piece, as I have made a few changes that increase the clarity of what I was trying to say.
I will be putting the edited piece on my website this AM:
http://mrmeangenesnews.blogspot.com
Thanks for the constructive commentary !
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