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If Minutemen Are Vigilantes, What Do You Call 500,000 Illegal Aliens Demanding Rights?
NewsByUs.com ^ | Apr 10, 2006 | Citizen Conservative

Posted on 04/10/2006 5:52:04 AM PDT by IrishMike

When the Minutemen set up shop at the Arizona border last year to call attention to the illegal alien loophole in US Homeland Security, President Bush foolishly chided these brave patriots by calling them vigilantes. Although chagrined at being deserted by the man who has the constitutional responsibility and authority to defend our borders, the Minutemen dug in their heels and persisted. And persisted.

Their Yankee determination to do the right thing was rewarded when President Bush finally sent additional border patrol agents to Arizona. Even the Mexican government was motivated to pay greater attention, at least temporarily, because of the due diligence of heroic Minutemen.

Before the Minuteman took their courageous stand, open border advocates and anti-American liberals insisted it was “impossible” to stop illegal immigration. Best to just accept reality, learn Spanish, and switch to rice and beans as food stables, according to the leftists and Hispanic racists.

Thank God, the Minutemen PROVED illegal aliens CAN be stopped, thereby delivering a great victory on behalf of all American citizens.

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To: freepatriot32
Yeah that makes a lot of sense doesn't it brilliant move if you ask me /s

In thinking of a response to your post, I thought this is most fitting. I remember from when I was a young girl, our preacher quoted this more than once.

Matthew 13:13 Therefore I speak to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

I think we have more than a fair share around here.

521 posted on 04/12/2006 10:44:01 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: IamConservative
Indiana's photo ID requirement is new this year. Much to the chagrin of the Demorats, who feel that it will limit the voting rights of women and minorities...........
522 posted on 04/12/2006 11:16:47 AM PDT by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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To: papertyger; Jim Robinson
.. I can only ask "Are you a journalist?"

I can't answer that but I do know there are a growing number of us that are sick of the increasing tendency of FReepers to "go ugly" in a many of our threads. Personal attacks, foul language and vitriol are becoming the norm rather than the exception. Agenda is trumping fact and ranting and raving is overcoming civil discourse.

It's high time for The Boss to clamp down, not just on Travis but on a few more that are known for hurling insults.

Sorry to see Travis go by the way but if Jim doesn't see fit to reinstate him, so be it.

523 posted on 04/12/2006 11:32:19 AM PDT by evad
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To: Jeff Head

Caution..

Waking people up to extreme danger may be hazardous to certain other folks well being..

Bump.

;-)


524 posted on 04/12/2006 12:03:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: river rat

I'm with you brother "River Rat"

Doc H

2/39th 3/60th 9th Infantry Div RVN 69-70


525 posted on 04/12/2006 1:19:05 PM PDT by joesnuffy ( 'This Guest Worker Program' Is To Border Security as 'Campaign Finance Reform' Is To Free Speech)
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To: Jim Robinson

mark for reading.


526 posted on 04/12/2006 1:19:15 PM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: pbrown

thanks for that link....I'll have to look at it later; this is crazy!


527 posted on 04/12/2006 2:14:59 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: IrishMike

God Bless the minutemen. We love you!
God Bless the minutemen. We love you!
God Bless the minutemen. We love you!
God Bless the minutemen. We love you!


528 posted on 04/12/2006 2:22:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
Another poster speaks of the wonderful job President Bush is doing in the WOT.

I may be stupid but not securing your nation's borders while hassling its citizens seems a darn poor way to go about it.

The main thrust of the WOT resembles the WOD and that is a WOF/WOR.

Bush has called the Americans brave enough to do something vigilantes while ,by not budgeting the 1800 Border Patrol positions, he resists the will of the people and Congress.

He said he would sign a extension of the AWB,only good conservative Congressmen responded to the Constitution and the people and voted it down.

He has vetoed nothing.

He has expanded the federal government and the debt.

He has launched a questionable war and asked the troops to fight under restrictions and not mobilized the nation to do the job and be done with it.

He has been a great disappointment.

Yet he was apparently the better of the two.

You would think we could find some other than a ski bum who married for money vs. daddy's little rich boy who failed in a couple of business.

Heck,maybe Bill Gates SHOULD be President since he is a bigger success.

529 posted on 04/12/2006 2:48:20 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: evad
Nonsense. Disdain is a perfectly reasonable response to contrary-to-fact assertions...even if said assertions are polite.

Disingenuousness is still dishonesty.

530 posted on 04/12/2006 3:15:31 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: IrishMike
If Minutemen Are Vigilantes, What Do You Call 500,000 Illegal Aliens Demanding Rights?

Shameful.

531 posted on 04/12/2006 3:44:12 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Soon Israel will be just a memory.)
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To: hoosierham

Yeah. Those folks in D.C. aren't the slightest bit interested in securing our borders. If they were, it would have been done years ago. Another freeper said Bush and all them folks just believe in "World Peace," while apparently being quite loyal to the U.S. That's probably part of it, but more likely it's just a handy-dandy excuse to continue being the do-nothing, money-changers that corrupt human nature ascribes.


532 posted on 04/12/2006 3:46:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: papertyger
Nonsense. Disdain is a perfectly reasonable response to contrary-to-fact assertions...even if said assertions are polite. Disingenuousness is still dishonesty.

With the exception of the word nonsense, I agree with your statement.

533 posted on 04/12/2006 3:53:12 PM PDT by evad
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To: hoosierham
"You would think we could find some other than a ski bum who married for money vs. daddy's little rich boy who failed in a couple of business."

But what will he do to save the Union?

What will congress do to save the Union this time around?

Well, they didn't really save it after all, did they? They only re-structured it -- and they will re-structure it again.

Will they re-write the Constitution again, add Amendment 14-A, granting illegals all the privileges and immunities of 14th Amendment citizens?

Seems to me amnesty and acceptance of illegals in any form and open borders is a de -facto alteration of Amendment 14 without benefit of legitimate passage.

Maybe it will avert a civil war. Right? Too bad we have to act from a position of weakness. When was the last time we acted from a position of strength and resolve? I forget.

Muzzies getting the path well-paved by others.

534 posted on 04/12/2006 4:08:28 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Jeff Head
Yes, the Southwest is a tinderbox, and our so-called leaders in Washington seem to think that more gasoline is the answer.

These words by Travis are absolutely true, and as a resident of southern California, like him, I can attest to that.

Our "leaders" are indeed selling America out. How many "elected ones" are speaking up for American citizens? Very few. How many "elected ones" are speaking up for illegal immigration? Most of them.

Something REEKS in Washington, an invasion by a third world dump is being encouraged, and it doesn't bode well for America's future.

535 posted on 04/12/2006 4:31:01 PM PDT by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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To: Czar; Euro-American Scum; B4Ranch; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; cva66snipe
Some on this thread are stating that Travis McGee was banned because he stepped over the line. If he did, he did so under provocation.

Passions run high when a perception of deep betrayal, injustice, and the instinct to survive are a part of the mix. And I don’t believe any informed conservative can cite a time in his life when all three were more a part of his daily thoughts and fears than they are now.

It would appear that, even here on this forum, those who still possess sufficient insight to comprehend that we are under an unprecedented attack by an malevolent invading army, and who exhibit sufficient courage to declare that those in ‘leadership’ positions in Washington who are doing nothing about it are betraying this republic, find themselves in a shrinking and ill-treated minority that is consistently smeared, called radical, alarmist, hostile to Latinos, and a myriad of other undeserved labels. Travis has even been called ‘imprudent’ (*gasp*) on the thread.

Prudence is not called for in the current political climate. Courage is.

One senate Republican aide, gutsy enough to call a spade a spade, recently observed that ‘there is a paralyzing fear of the illegal-immigrant lobby’ in Washington. It matters not that the large majority of American citizens believes that illegal immigrants should not be offered any kind of amnesty, and that an even larger majority wants to erect a security fence along our southern border. Representative government appears to have given way to rule by special interest and the amassing of political power.

It’s time for our ‘leadership’ in Washington to stop their incessant, self-promoting and power-mongering, mute their phony political pre-election posturing, and start leading. And if they will not, it’s time for the citizenry to do something about the malaise at the top.

We are not calling for a revolution. We are begging our leadership to lead, so as to avoid one. Criminals are streaming across our border. Eleven million of them are living among us. They are arrogantly demanding rights without responsibilities. They are staking out illegitimate claims to our homeland. They are looking at two-plus centuries of success and prosperity, built on the blood and sweat of those who came here with a respect for our laws and a willingness to shed their blood, and work from dawn to dusk … and they are scheming to steal those hard-won successes and rewards, and to bring this republic to her knees in the process.

It’s parasitic. It’s wicked. It’s unjust.

I, for one, am tired of debates about racism, legal technicalities, economic indicators, which party is ‘doing more’ for the middle class, and the rest of the election-year ‘issues’ that have been fabricated, or conveniently politically magnified beyond rationality … You want to do something for me, ‘leaders’ in Washington? Stop creating issues and problems so that you can get re-elected on promises to solve them. And start staring down the genuine evils that threaten to erase our national sovereignty.

Stop the interminable debates about how to deal with those illegal immigrants who have broken the law and are working in the U.S., and obtaining education, health care, court costs, legal representation, etc. at no cost, while the American taxpayer must pay obscenely burdensome taxes to obtain the same for his family. That criminal behavior and resultant inequity must be identified, acknowledged and corrected. But we face a much more pressing problem that needs to be solved now. And every day that you persist in political posturing simply serves to render the problem even more deadly. We must stop the flow of illegal immigrants. We must close our southern border.

Although unfair, and continually sapping our national fiscal strength, it’s not the illegals’ effect on our economy that is killing us. Dollars and cents are never the bottom line in a free society. Liberty and sovereignty are. And both precious entities are growing ever more precarious in America 2006.

If a deadly toxin is seeping into your house, in higher concentrations each day, do you sit in your livingroom debating among family members how you should attempt to neutralize its toxicity so as to avoid eventual death for you all? And do you quibble incessantly over who should have the power to make such decisions?

Or do you first locate, and seal up, the source of the leak?

Never did I believe that I would live to see the day when the leadership of this country would place more importance on poll numbers, phony economic considerations, special interests, and the desire to win re-election, than on the sovereignty and security of America. And I believed it even less likely that that disgusting and obscene state of affairs would occur with a republican occupying the White House, and republicans in the majority in the house and senate.

Thanks to politicians (both republican and democrat) without character or conscience, obsessively focused on cheap labor and more votes (read: the amassing of personal and ideological power), media that hold in disdain the America that once was, and racist pressure groups, our republic sits on the brink of a terrible abyss from which, for the first time in our history, only the American citizen can pull her back.

God bless (and we must support) the Minutmen.

… don’t be surprised if, some day in the not too distant future, the Statue of Liberty’s torch is replaced with a sign reading ‘It Worked Fine at First … Florence King

~ joanie ....

536 posted on 04/12/2006 9:26:07 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

Most excellent post bump


537 posted on 04/12/2006 9:32:48 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: joanie-f
Bravo Bump!

538 posted on 04/12/2006 9:39:48 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: joanie-f

All I can say is wow. And Thank you. It amazes me the American citizens that are sitting back and doing nothing. As long as their present family and material goods are not in jeopardy, there is no involvement. Just wait until their kids or grandkids get gangraped by these criminals. I know that sounds harsh. But I feel like we are riding on the Titanic right now and many are ignoring the life boat directions.

We are about to have a state of lawlessness upon us. Who is in charge?


539 posted on 04/12/2006 9:51:48 PM PDT by del4hope (Our government: by the people, for the people, and ruined by the liberals, invaded by illegals)
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To: clawrence3
We don't let private citizens enforce speeding laws either.

We do if the offense occurs on private property. It's my understanding that the Minutemen operate on private property, at the request of, or with the permission of the landowner. The people are trespassing as well as entering the country illegally. The MM report them to the authorities. Just like you can, or could, call the highway patrol on your CB or cell phone to report a speeder or reckless driver, and you don't even have to be on private property to do that.

The bottom line is the the MM are doing their ordinary civic duty, reporting misdemeanants to the police or sheriff. Now if the law breakers are committing a felony, witnessed by the citizen, such as aiding or inducing someone to enter the country illegally, then the citizen may make an arrest, at least in most states and jurisdictions, and certainly under the common law.

540 posted on 04/12/2006 9:52:39 PM PDT by El Gato
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