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Human Remains In Ancient Jar A Mystery
Discovery.com ^ | 1-26-2007 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 01/26/2007 2:38:22 PM PST by blam

Human Remains in Ancient Jar a Mystery

Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Jan. 23, 2007 — For over 100 years, four blue-glazed jars bearing the nametag of Rameses II (1302-1213 B.C.) were believed to contain the Egyptian pharaoh's bodily organs. But analysis of organic residues scraped from the jars has determined one actually contained an aromatic salve, while a second jar held the organs of an entirely different person who lived around 760 years later.

Now the question is, who was this individual?

"We do believe that the unknown person was of importance for at least two reasons," said Jacques Connan, one of the study’s authors. "First, he or she had access to the famous jars and secondly, his or her organs were embalmed with pure Pistacia resin, which is uncommon according to our present chemical knowledge on balms of Egyptian mummies, especially during the Roman period."

The mystery concerning the jars began in 1905, when they were brought to Paris’ Louvre Museum, where they are still housed. Shortly after that time, researchers cut into a packet inside one of the jars and plucked out a piece of heart. The packet is now lost, but from that point on, the containers were labeled as "the canopic jars of Rameses II."

Connan, a professor in the bio-organic geochemistry laboratory at Louis Pasteur University in Strasbourg, and his colleagues questioned the description, especially as the heart of Rameses II was later found inside his mummy. The scientists recently radiocarbon dated residue from two of the four jars and used molecular biomarkers to identify the contents.

A paper on the findings has been accepted for publication in the Journal of Archaeological Science.

The aromatic salve was determined to contain animal fat — probably from a pig — which was mixed with coniferous oil, such as cedar, juniper or pine. This concoction dates close to the pharaoh’s lifetime. Connan and his team now think the jars originally held sacred cosmetics in the Temple of Rameses II.

"Unguent (perfumed salve) cones were worn on top of heads by women in banquets, but likely also during ceremonies to honor gods in temples," he told Discovery News, adding that the mixture may have also been applied to objects. Texts on the jars link them to the gods Amun-Ra and Mut, and not Osiris, the god of death.

The researchers believe the containers were then reused hundreds of years later as canopic jars — to hold the remains unknown individual — since one originally held the Pistacia embalming substance on linen and contained the now-missing organ packet.

Geneviève Pierrat-Bonnefois, curator in chief of the Louvre’s Department of Egyptian Antiquities, told Discovery News that she agrees with the findings "because they largely rectify our vision of the jars, which were for a long time suspected by the department conservators as not being (Rameses II) canopic jars."

Pierrat-Bonnefois said the Louvre has responded by changing the museum’s label for the objects, as well as writing a detailed, corrected history of them, now on the Louvre’s website, www.louvre.fr.

Connan said he hopes to analyze other museum objects and materials in the future, since many more could be mislabeled.

"Sometimes the scientific cross-checking was not carried out, or it was done a long time ago with inappropriate methods," he explained.

Paint, tar and other remains on sarcophagi and statues, as well as embalming materials for mummified animals, such as crocodiles, cats and ibis at the British Museum, interest the scientists and could form the basis of their upcoming projects.

Unless further information surfaces, the VIP who was once partially interred in the ancient Egyptian jars may never be identified.


TOPICS: Egypt; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 01/26/2007 2:38:24 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 01/26/2007 2:38:51 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Hoffa


3 posted on 01/26/2007 2:40:04 PM PST by Patrick1
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Human Remains In Ancient Jar A Mystery

Yes, why would a human remain in an ancient jar?

4 posted on 01/26/2007 2:42:15 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (You'd think he'd want to come out sometime.)
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To: blam

This sort of thing tended to happen to people who knew too much about Hillary even back then.


5 posted on 01/26/2007 2:44:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: blam

Somehow I just knew "Coneheads" would be involved....
this IS Remulac we are talking about!


6 posted on 01/26/2007 2:45:24 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

Maybe it will turn out that those ancient Egyptians, reasonably forseeing the future, were just 'playing with your head' all along. :)


7 posted on 01/26/2007 2:47:10 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: Charles Henrickson

Yes, why would a human remain in an ancient jar?

Subsidized housing?

When is a jar not a jar?

Simple, when it's adored.

heheheh.


8 posted on 01/26/2007 2:47:52 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

Now the question is, who was this individual?

A wannabe.


9 posted on 01/26/2007 3:10:36 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: blam

This is probably the ancient source of Prince Albert in a can jokes.


10 posted on 01/26/2007 3:15:47 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: blam
As long as it isn't one of these canopic jar -


11 posted on 01/26/2007 3:19:58 PM PST by SengirV
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To: BenLurkin

How'd the guy get in the jar in the first place?


12 posted on 01/26/2007 3:22:55 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Must have been real small.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Nobody rubbed his belly.


13 posted on 01/26/2007 3:27:08 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Bought the jar, dumped it out, paid his/her embalmer to pack his/her remains into it.


14 posted on 01/26/2007 3:29:11 PM PST by BenLurkin
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Recycled canopic jars ping.

You know, I really hate it when they take your jar, dump out your guts, and put women's lip gloss in the jar.

Remind me not to be buried in a jar. It's the only way to stop these beasts.
15 posted on 01/26/2007 3:35:23 PM PST by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: blam

...and tonight's menu: Canned King aka Pickled Pharoah.


16 posted on 01/26/2007 3:35:35 PM PST by madison10 (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war)
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I'm not surprised. IIRC, the mummy of Ramses II was found in a cache with many other royal mummies. The mummies seemed to have been moved in a hurry, probably as some emergency measure.

The priests who moved the jars may not even have known to whom the jars belonged. In any case, the pharoahs had all eternity to sort it out.

17 posted on 01/26/2007 4:48:08 PM PST by Physicist
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Human debris in a modern jar-


18 posted on 01/26/2007 5:16:24 PM PST by mikrofon (President "I'm Mad-in-a-Jar")
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To: 75thOVI; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; Brujo; CGVet58; Chani; ..
...while a second jar held the organs of an entirely different person who lived around 760 years later.
Tee-hee. :')

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19 posted on 01/26/2007 10:37:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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Thanks Blam.

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20 posted on 01/26/2007 10:41:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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