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Sanders: If baseball players make millions, teachers deserve raise
MSN ^ | 5/19/19 | Arthur Weinstein

Posted on 05/19/2019 6:46:01 PM PDT by Libloather

If Bernie Sanders were an MLB general manager, he would probably be the type who chases bargain players rather than signing free agents to mega contracts.

The presidential contender posted a video on his Twitter account Saturday showing him at a campaign stop talking about raising pay for school teachers. And he used baseball salaries to make his point.

"If we are a nation that can provide contracts to baseball players for hundreds of millions of dollars, don't tell me we cannot pay teachers in this country the kinds of wages and salaries they deserve," Sanders said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2020demprimary; baseball; berniesanders; mlb; sanders; scam; teachers; theydont; vermont
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To: Libloather

Bernie, sorry but you compare a baseball player to a teacher! There is only x amount of baseball players, and less who are stars, while teachers are a dime a dozen. Supply and demand...


61 posted on 05/19/2019 7:56:56 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: anton

For the most part that is true. Public schools are probably one of the only industries that still operates like an 1800’s era enterprise. Technology is ubiquitous in almost every other aspect of life and yet we cram 30-40 kids into a room to memorize leaflets written by distant administrators.

Crunch the numbers on that. In California at about $13,000 per pupil that’s $500,000 per classroom. Where does it all go? Maybe 10% to the teacher. Some to the school staff. Some for overhead. And the usual typical city graft and school bureaucracies. I guess it is a little different in smaller cities and towns but in the California metro areas the school systems are massive - and so are the high schools. The HS I went to had 2500 kids, $32 million a year to one site. Half the kids came in on buses to escape the crap schools in their neighborhoods.


62 posted on 05/19/2019 7:58:04 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Libloather
And if Sanders has three houses he can pay off my mortgage.

One is just as logical as the other.

63 posted on 05/19/2019 8:03:56 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: Libloather

Nah. They get paid planty to fill kids’ heads with slop. Pay them the same rate as migrant pig farmers.


64 posted on 05/19/2019 8:05:12 PM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: Libloather

So says the millionaire author.


65 posted on 05/19/2019 8:05:13 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: SuperLuminal
Neither profession is worth what the the members are paid...

You're worth whatever somebody is willing to pay you. You don't get to decide.

66 posted on 05/19/2019 8:07:00 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Libloather

Babe Ruth was asked his thoughts on whether of not he deserved to make more money than the President. He quipped that he had a better year.


67 posted on 05/19/2019 8:11:41 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (‘When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.’)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I don’t think we’re gonna agree on this one.

But I still see your point of view.


68 posted on 05/19/2019 8:16:02 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Libloather

Sanders is saying that teachers need to form up into teams and compete for their pay?

Cool. No more tax money for teachers. Well, probably for their stadiums. We seem to do that a lot.


69 posted on 05/19/2019 8:18:35 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Libloather

Then enact school vouchers.
Or end school taxes.
Let parents compete for those quality teachers, let them earn what others will give for them.

I’d send my kids & money to better teachers if I could. I tried; the money taken to give lousy teachers is debilitating.


70 posted on 05/19/2019 8:19:05 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: Libloather

He just wants Hillary to buy him off with another house like she did last time.


71 posted on 05/19/2019 8:20:38 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Libloather

Baseball players achieve excellent. Teachers are a race to the bottom.

I would cut teacher’s salaries based on their dismal performance.


72 posted on 05/19/2019 8:20:56 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!.)
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To: anton
Teachers can barely follow the simple scripts written for them by equally incompetent administrators. They cry about their salaries and work a part time seasonal job for full time wages. They could all be replaced by Indian telemarketers and the World would be a better place.

You are a complete a@@. You have no idea what you're talking about, just blowing a bunch of jumbled nonsense out your nether hole. Where do you get a teacher's job is a "part time seasonal job"? Obviously you have never taught a class. The time a teacher spends at school is just the delivery. They spend considerable time (and their own money) preparing their lessons at home, making sure they carefully explains the topic, making sure it's engaging, making sure the props are available and work properly. Most high school teachers have more than one subject of lesson to prepare, so we're talking about hours of work AFTER school hours. Then, there's parental calls to be made and the grading of papers. So hours-wise, it's like double time they put in during the school year.

And, A@@, kids don't learn by simply listening to a computer lesson. They need the give and take that interaction with an actual teacher gives, and the encouragement and understanding. Very often, students' teachers spot situations no one else has, and are in a unique position to take action to improve the student's situation.

A lesson needs to be fun as well as informative; locking someone into a carrell is not going to deliver anything but a prison mindset. I don't know what kind of school you attended, but the one you're talking about sounds more like San Quentin than a school. You are utterly clueless and have some nerve making pejorative statements like you've made, especially when your so-called replacement for teachers is nothing but laughable and pathetic. Just like your attitude. People like you in your brittle glass house should NOT be throwing stones in the direction of education professionals.

73 posted on 05/19/2019 8:21:02 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

“Teachers educate the children.”

Yeah, but what we pay are not teachers, they are indoctrination counselors.


74 posted on 05/19/2019 8:21:30 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!.)
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To: CodeToad
Baseball players achieve excellent.

You obviously haven't watched the Tigers this year.

75 posted on 05/19/2019 8:24:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: VietVet876
In many inner city schools, teachers should be replaced by corrections officers.

Not a bad idea. Every classroom should be turned into a computer lab so each student can get online to do his assignments. That way, you will not need teachers.

76 posted on 05/19/2019 8:24:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Just have everybody take courses on udemy.com.


77 posted on 05/19/2019 8:26:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Libloather

I would suggest to Bernie that no elected official in the USA should make more than the average income of the istrict s/he represents, and, further, cannot make income from other sources, i.e., honoraria, endorsements, etc., and their spouses cannot make money from any entity that does any business whatsoever with the government at any level. How’s that for fair??


78 posted on 05/19/2019 8:26:50 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Libloather

Most pubic school teachers (FReeper teachers excluded) are overpaid by at least 50%.

A part-time job isn’t worth what we are paying them.


79 posted on 05/19/2019 8:30:01 PM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: monkeyshine
Public schools are probably one of the only industries that still operates like an 1800’s era enterprise. Technology is ubiquitous in almost every other aspect of life and yet we cram 30-40 kids into a room to memorize leaflets written by distant administrators.

There's Probably less of a need for teachers, especially in high schools. We can use technology to educate students and that will provide for diversified learning. A smart kid should be able to explore more while a kid who's not on grade level can work on the basics.

80 posted on 05/19/2019 8:31:37 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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