Someone get this into President Trump's hands!
Posted on 08/14/2019 3:07:24 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
The White House is in talks with lawmakers from both parties on gun control proposals, hoping for a plan of action before September.
Administration officials and senior staffers in both chambers are in early discussions about which bills likely to see movement, and which ones the White House might support.
“I think the wheels are spinning pretty quickly right now on gathering a lot of this information,” a source familiar with the discussions told The Hill. “So I think the goal would be to have something ready by the end of the month or at least by the time Congress comes back — have some sort of a better picture.”
The House and Senate are slated to reconvene Sept. 9.
Staff for Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) -- two key senators on gun control -- met with White House staff on Tuesday. And Sen. Pat Toomey’s (R-Pa.) office has also been involved in talks.
Manchin and Toomey are the co-authors of a 2013 background check bill that was rejected by the Senate, and Murphy is a leading champion of gun control, having taken up the cause after the deadly 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in his home state.
Trump has publicly praised the idea of strengthening background checks, following pressure to act after back-to-back mass shootings earlier this month in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio.
But the Toomey-Manchin proposal faces significant hurdles. Some question whether the administration can get behind it, particularly since House-passed legislation in February that went slightly further received minimal GOP support.
“That one could be tricky, though. It might be a bridge too far,” said the source familiar with the talks. “But that's not to say it couldn't happen on the hill. I think you could pretty easily. ... I think they are going to take a read from him [Trump] on that issue.”
There is deep skepticism over the prospects for a bipartisan agreement, especially with the split power between chambers.
“I mean, the fact of the matter is the Senate is where the real game is here. The House is going to take this thing so far to the left and, you know, there's no feasible pass through the Senate,” the source said.
“So the question is: Can you get something that is enough to attract enough Democrats in the Senate and get some sort of a deal that doesn't alienate too many Republicans?”
There is also uncertainty on Capitol Hill over whether Trump will ultimately walk back his remarks signaling an openness to significantly tighten background check laws.
In early 2018, after the school shooting in Parkland, Fla., Trump said he was open to a range of gun control measures like background checks and even an assault weapons ban. But he later backed off, declaring at an NRA convention that year: “Your Second Amendment rights are under siege. But they will never, ever be under siege as long as I’m your president.”
Still, Trump is publicly saying this time around that he is open to a deal. The president spoke with Murphy on Sunday and told reporters it was a good discussion.
“We had a very good conversation,” Trump said on Tuesday. “We’ll see what happens.”
“I can tell you, from my standpoint, I would like to see meaningful background checks,” Trump added. “And I think something will happen.”
Murphy is warning that if anything is going to happen, Trump cannot fold under pressure from the right like he did before.
“We continue to work to find common ground, but as I told the President, we can't get a bill if he and the GOP give the gun lobby veto power,” Murphy tweeted after his call with Trump.
Gun rights groups, a powerful force in the GOP, are putting pressure on Republicans not to take action.
Michael Hammond, legislative counsel for Gun Owners of America, said his group has been in touch with the offices of GOP senators, warning them: “If you think that you're going to win the next election by destroying your base, you better think again.”
Hammond said he thinks Trump is already backing off from a push for universal background checks, and would propose something smaller, like an enhanced version of the “Fix NICS” law improving the reporting of information to the existing background check system. Congress passed that bill last year.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who would be expected to hold a floor vote on any potential deal, is seen as a major question mark in the effort to advance gun legislation. He has long opposed gun control measures, though he cracked the door open slightly this month.
The Kentucky Republican said background checks and “red flag” laws to help keep guns away from mentally ill people would be “two items that for sure will be front and center as we see what we can come together on and pass.”
Someone get this into President Trump's hands!
You haven't seen them, have you? And is anyone asking him about them?
Trump will likely lead the herd to more gun control. Trump probably thinks it will pay off politically and just wants a deal.
That would be great, I would go to DC and pick it up from Trump himself.
Good time to propose Constitutional Carry.
If President Trump signs gun control legislation, he might as well sign his resignation letter.
Nothing changes until Trump signs the bill.
The new Tanker is pretty cool. They had some deals...free mags and scope mount....earlier in the year. I don’t know how often they do those things.
Just the hysterical tone of the news, of late, could account for that. If new folks are getting CCWs, that alone bumps NICS numbers.
I’d hate like hell to see Trump waffle on guns. I think that would send sales through the roof. And ammo goes up, as well.
Don’t leave out, the same people who decided Epstein was not a suicide threat will be deciding if you lose your rights. (I am only referring to their accuracy)
SA has it at $1987 MSRP. Same as the Scout Squad. Pretty steep. Bud’s Guns could probably beat that.
You make it sound like reneging on the promised unredacted FISA documents is a good thing.
Failing to deliver on something as important as the FISA papers should be a welcome development?
Or am I misunderstanding you?
Exactly what I said the moment these Morons started piping up.
I would love to say it to their Face and see their reactions.
An Armed Society, especially one where you don’t know who is Armed, is a very Polite Society.
“Trump probably thinks it will pay off politically and just wants a deal.”
Didn’t we elect an outsider; a billionaire businessman so that politics would not play a part in his decision making?
Selling your 2A rights down the river to make a ‘deal’ is okay with you?
You are aware that the people voting to take away your right to defend yourself and your family have 24/7 armed protection for themselves and their family, right? And that will never change?
We need to tell him that gun control is unacceptable in his rallies.
FOAD.Kiss 2020 goodbye."Drop mike".
I am just saying the no shows at the polls on the anti-MAGA will make that kind of difference.
Paragraph 1 of any Red Flag law should read as follows:
1. Any person who invokes any provision of this chapter for any purpose other than to report a real and immediate threat of violence to any person or persons, shall be subject to a fine of not less than $50,000.00 and a term of imprisonment of not less than years.
How about Red Flag laws for everyone who are prescribed SSRI meds that carry side effect warnings of causing homicidal behavior? Especially in light of the fact that EVERY one of these mass shootings have the common connection to use of these mind altering drugs.
I'll second that!
DON'T THINK ABOUT IT ... DO IT NOW!!!!
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