Posted on 03/24/2016 5:42:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Has Professor Robert Langdon been notified of this?
Actually the scriptures are the most historical validated written text period. No other book comes close.
Interesting, Thanks for sharing it!
Thanks very much for the post.
The key point is that it *only* included 22 of 27. 5 more were still occasionally disputed. They definitely were widely considered scripture by AD 190, but there were some other books that were widely considered scripture, too, within apostolic doctrinally orthodox churches. Among these were the First Epistle of Clement, the Apocalypse of Peter and the Teaching of the Twelve.
The Muratorian fragment considers the Book of Wisdom to be scripture, even though it seems to include it in the New Testament.
The first canon which lists every New Testament book and no other books is that of Athanasius, in AD 367, quickly followed by many others (Rufinus, 380; Epiphanius, 385; Jerome, 390, Augustine, 397; 3rd Council of Carthage, 397; Pope Innocent I, 405)
Another odd thing about citing the Muratorian fragment is that its author is plainly defining the canon not by which books are doctrinally authoritative, but which are fitting to be used in public worship.
Ah, yes... but Polycarp also cites several books which did NOT become part of the canon.
(The Protestant canon excludes Tobit, from which Polycarp cites, “alms delivers from death.”)
Interesting read. Thanks for posting.
Correct. I rode my bike past St. Jerome’s house every day for a year while studying in Rome. I would say to myself, Yup, that is where the Bible was assembled.
St. Jerome and his lion had two hundred or so fragments on his desk including fragments similar to the Muratori document. Myth? You wish. Give a high five to St. Augustine for encouraging St. Jerome to stop being slothful and start being industrious.
Gold star. This is Holy Thursday when the Lord picked up a towel and got a basin of water. He is the true Lord and we are not worthy of His care.
Here’s wishing a blessed Easter week to all celebrating.
RE: So, it comes from the 7th century, and might be quoting works from 170 to 400
Well, I think we shouldn’t stop here. The next question to ask is are the works quoted in 170 AD FROM THAT ERA, or were they quoting from even earlier sources?
Amen, Falconspeed.
Your logic, once again, is fallacious, as simply because the NT became correctly established - as testified to by its enduring near universal acceptance - does not support the premise that all else that is attributed to tradition - as magisterially defined by Rome - is correct. If so then we must concur with all Jewish tradition that was held by those who sat in the seat of Moses. Such traditions of Rome as you list are invalid like as so many Jewish ones are.
Moreover, "the sense of the faithful" for Rome can mean making a binding belief out of something that is so critically lacking evidence that it was an early belief of tradition that her own scholars opposed it as being apostolic tradition, but which presumption, over 1700 years after the alleged even occurred, is justified under the premise that Rome can remember what history "forgot" to record and preserve.
Thus once again, your attempts to promote Rome are an argument against her. Repent.
I’ve read that the entire New Testament could be compiled from the numerous and accurate quotations and citings from the writings of the church leaders called the Early Church Fathers.
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An official letter on a papyrus of the 3rd century BC Papyrus is first known to have been used in ancient Egypt (at least as far back as the First Dynasty), as the Cyperus papyrus plant was a wetland sedge that was once abundant in the Sudd of Southern Sudan along with the Nile Delta of Egypt. Papyrus was also used throughout the Mediterranean region and in Kingdom of Kush. The Ancient Egyptians used papyrus as a writing material,[2] as well as employing it commonly in the construction of other artifacts such as reed boats, mats, rope, sandals, and baskets.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus
Papyrus was used for scrolls, but later on vellum was used for codexes (which were constructed more like modern books), such as that which the Muratorian Fragment came from.
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