Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Muratorian fragment, dated 170 A.D., affirms 22 out of 27 New Testament books
Wintery Knight ^ | 03/19/2016

Posted on 03/24/2016 5:42:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Muratorian fragment / The Muratorian canonThe Muratorian fragment / The Muratorian canon (click for larger image)

I sometimes hear this odd objection that the books that were to be included in the Bible were not decided until the 4th century. I think it comes from some Hollywood movie, or maybe a TV show. Anyway, this post should help fix that myth.

I’m going to quote from New Testament expert Dr. Michael J. Kruger from his blog.

He writes:

One of the key data points in any discussion of canon is something called the Muratorian fragment (also known as the Muratorian canon). This fragment, named after its discoverer Ludovico Antonio Muratori, contains our earliest list of the books in the New Testament. While the fragment itself dates from the 7th or 8th century, the list it contains was originally written in Greek and dates back to the end of the second century (c.180).

[…]What is noteworthy for our purposes here is that the Muratorian fragment affirms 22 of the 27 books of the New Testament. These include the four Gospels, Acts, all 13 epistles of Paul, Jude, 1 John, 2 John (and possibly 3rd John), and Revelation. This means that at a remarkably early point (end of the second century), the central core of the New Testament canon was already established and in place.

Although there is still dispute about some books, that does not negate the fact that the main books we use (the gospels, Acts, the letters of Paul) are all considered to be canon by 180 A.D., much before any famous church councils ever happened. And those books were decided on because they were in widespread use and respected by everyone.

What about the books that were in dispute? Do they throw any core doctrines into doubt?

Second, if there was a core collection of New Testament books, then the theological trajectory of early Christianity had already been determined prior to the debates about the peripheral books being resolved. So, regardless of the outcome of discussion over books like 2 Peter or James, Christianity’s core doctrines of the person of Christ, the work of Christ, the means of salvation, etc., were already in place and already established. The acceptance or rejection of books like 2 Peter would not change that fact.

By the way, I’d actually heard that the date for this fragment was 170 A.D., so it might even be earlier than Dr. Krueger says.

I did search around a bit for something to break the tie between me and Krueger, because I couldn’t remember my source for the date. I found this book “Jesus, Gospel Tradition and Paul in the Context of Jewish and Greco-Roman Antiquity” by David E. Aune, and he writes on p. 22:

The four Gospels are also referred to in the Canon Muratorianus, a seventh or eighth century manuscript originally translated from Greek into a deponent form of Latin and widely regarded as having been produced ca. 170 CE. Though the beginning of this canonical list is fragmentary (though obviously referring to Mark), the first two clear references to New Testament books are to Luke and John (lines 2, 9): tertio euangelii librum secando Lucan guard evangeliorutn lohannis ex decipolis.” (“The third book of the Gospel is that according to Luke … The fourth of the Gospels is that of John, [one) of the disciples”).

So, that’s why the date in the title of this post is 170 A.D., and not the later 180 A.D. he mentions. And that’s why there’s no reason to be skeptical that the Bible we have today is any different than the Bible that everybody in the early church had.



TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 2ndcenturyad; 4thcenturyad; 7thcenturyad; ancientscripture; bible; canonmuratorianus; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; fragment; godsgravesglyphs; muratorian; muratorianfragment; newtestament; scripture; sectarianturmoil
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-93 next last

1 posted on 03/24/2016 5:42:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

*ping of interest*


2 posted on 03/24/2016 5:43:29 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

It’s not a scroll?


3 posted on 03/24/2016 5:44:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
For those interested in New Testament History... This series is worth reading:

The Complete Series: Ten Basic Facts About the NT Canon that Every Christian Should Memorize


4 posted on 03/24/2016 5:45:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I have never heard of this.

Fascinating.


5 posted on 03/24/2016 5:46:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj
For those interested in New Testament History... This series is worth reading:

The Complete Series: Ten Basic Facts About the NT Canon that Every Christian Should Memorize


6 posted on 03/24/2016 5:46:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Many thanks for the lost!


7 posted on 03/24/2016 5:49:41 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Nice find. Thanks.


8 posted on 03/24/2016 5:52:12 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

RE: It is not a scroll?

It is a codex — an ancient manuscript text in book form.

The Muratorian fragment is a copy of perhaps the oldest known list of the books of the New Testament.

The fragment, consisting of 85 lines, is a 7th-century Latin manuscript bound in a 7th or 8th century codex from the library of Columban’s monastery at Bobbio; it contains features suggesting it is a translation from a Greek original written about 170 or as late as the 4th century.

Both the degraded condition of the manuscript and the poor Latin in which it was written have made it difficult to translate. The beginning of the fragment is missing, and it ends abruptly.

The fragment consists of all that remains of a section of a list of all the works that were accepted as canonical by the churches known to its anonymous original compiler.


9 posted on 03/24/2016 5:52:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; dragonblustar; ...

ping


10 posted on 03/24/2016 6:02:29 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

What kind of material is it written on?


11 posted on 03/24/2016 6:03:33 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: MarvinStinson

Ancient codexes were typically written on vellum, which is a sheep-skin stretched thin and sewn together. Thus they were extremely expensive.


12 posted on 03/24/2016 6:07:35 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for this link.


13 posted on 03/24/2016 6:09:48 PM PDT by kosciusko51
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Thanks so much for this. Fascinating!

Important line: "And those books were decided on [by the famous synods and councils]because they were in widespread use and respected by everyone."

That's exactly right. It's what we Catholics call the "Sensus fidelium" ... the sense of the Faithful. In this case, the actual practice. The big-T Tradition.

14 posted on 03/24/2016 6:10:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." - Psalm 89:15)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
"For those interested in New Testament History..."

Hey, thanks for the link!

15 posted on 03/24/2016 6:11:03 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind

Indeed! In Polycarp’s Letter to the Philipians, Polycarp either quotes from or alludes to all 27 books, including The Revelation of John. Polycarp was martyred in 156 AD.


16 posted on 03/24/2016 6:11:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

So, it comes from the 7th century, and might be quoting works from 170 to 400. Not sure it represents what it is being claimed to. But most of this is faith, anyways.


17 posted on 03/24/2016 6:11:42 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: WildHighlander57

Lost s/b post :0


18 posted on 03/24/2016 6:12:44 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Paul's letters were considered to be Scripture even prior to that. 2 Peter 3:16

Second Peter has been dated around 66 AD.

Plus if we examine Paul's letters we will find they were circulation prior to this.

1 Thes 5:27 (51 AD) this epistle to be read to all the brethren

Galatians 1:21 (49AD) to the churches in Galatia

Col 4:16 (61 AD) see to it that it is read to the church at Laodicea

The Word was getting around very early in the early church!

Source: Ryrie Study Bible

19 posted on 03/24/2016 6:15:26 PM PDT by ealgeone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The fragment, consisting of 85 lines, is a 7th-century Latin manuscript bound in a 7th or 8th century codex from the library of Columban’s monastery at Bobbio; it contains features suggesting it is a translation from a Greek original written about 170 or as late as the 4th century.

...

So there is still room for doubt it seems.


20 posted on 03/24/2016 6:21:02 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-93 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson