Posted on 03/24/2016 5:42:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
*ping of interest*
It’s not a scroll?
I have never heard of this.
Fascinating.
Many thanks for the lost!
Nice find. Thanks.
RE: It is not a scroll?
It is a codex — an ancient manuscript text in book form.
The Muratorian fragment is a copy of perhaps the oldest known list of the books of the New Testament.
The fragment, consisting of 85 lines, is a 7th-century Latin manuscript bound in a 7th or 8th century codex from the library of Columban’s monastery at Bobbio; it contains features suggesting it is a translation from a Greek original written about 170 or as late as the 4th century.
Both the degraded condition of the manuscript and the poor Latin in which it was written have made it difficult to translate. The beginning of the fragment is missing, and it ends abruptly.
The fragment consists of all that remains of a section of a list of all the works that were accepted as canonical by the churches known to its anonymous original compiler.
ping
What kind of material is it written on?
Ancient codexes were typically written on vellum, which is a sheep-skin stretched thin and sewn together. Thus they were extremely expensive.
Thank you for this link.
Important line: "And those books were decided on [by the famous synods and councils]because they were in widespread use and respected by everyone."
That's exactly right. It's what we Catholics call the "Sensus fidelium" ... the sense of the Faithful. In this case, the actual practice. The big-T Tradition.
Hey, thanks for the link!
Indeed! In Polycarp’s Letter to the Philipians, Polycarp either quotes from or alludes to all 27 books, including The Revelation of John. Polycarp was martyred in 156 AD.
So, it comes from the 7th century, and might be quoting works from 170 to 400. Not sure it represents what it is being claimed to. But most of this is faith, anyways.
Lost s/b post :0
Second Peter has been dated around 66 AD.
Plus if we examine Paul's letters we will find they were circulation prior to this.
1 Thes 5:27 (51 AD) this epistle to be read to all the brethren
Galatians 1:21 (49AD) to the churches in Galatia
Col 4:16 (61 AD) see to it that it is read to the church at Laodicea
The Word was getting around very early in the early church!
Source: Ryrie Study Bible
The fragment, consisting of 85 lines, is a 7th-century Latin manuscript bound in a 7th or 8th century codex from the library of Columbans monastery at Bobbio; it contains features suggesting it is a translation from a Greek original written about 170 or as late as the 4th century.
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So there is still room for doubt it seems.
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