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Bold type above is mine -- LNS

While Silvas said she agrees with the school's philosophy, she sidestepped the question of whether she considered her occupation a "sinful lifestyle."

"I am just doing it for a season," Silvas reasoned, adding, "I'm not proud of what I'm doing."

James 4:17: "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin."

1 posted on 05/17/2002 3:36:52 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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The daughter has done nothing wrong and should not be expelled from school. Ezekiel 18:20 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son"
2 posted on 05/17/2002 3:46:33 AM PDT by TheCPA
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The reason many parents sacrifice to send their children to private schools is to protect them from bad peer influence. While it surely is not the fault of the daughter, unfortunately she will certainly be taught the kind of values most of us don't want our children exposed to. And, let's not forget, she made an agreement with the school.

No, I would not let my children to play at the home of a stripper. It's not only stripping and nude modeling but all the sleazy associated with it. For example, most of these clubs are controlled by organized crime and there is rampant use of drugs. Also, while strippers make up only a very tiny percentage of American women, they provide an exceptionally high perentage of female killers -- I forgot the estimated percentage but it was way above average.

3 posted on 05/17/2002 3:58:54 AM PDT by Dante3
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The best way to teach values is to set a good example. The values this mom holds are not something I would want my children to be exposed to. Also, she broke her agreement with the school, showing that she is also dishonest,
4 posted on 05/17/2002 4:19:17 AM PDT by Dante3
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What is the Free Republic abreviation for "I'm standing here shaking my head"?
5 posted on 05/17/2002 4:20:50 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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Sorry, but place my vote in the "Good Mother" side.
6 posted on 05/17/2002 4:26:02 AM PDT by Hunble
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Do you remember when Darva Conger said she was a Christian but that god would forgive her for posing in Playboy? A Hollywood studio couldn't create a bigger farce than this.
14 posted on 05/17/2002 4:42:26 AM PDT by LarryM
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Stripper moms of the world unite!
15 posted on 05/17/2002 4:42:50 AM PDT by codebreaker
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Sorry guys I got to break with you guys on this one. And no I don't believe that being a stripper is ok. Shouldn't the church be trying to get closer inside an area of influence where they can help her, to show her why what she is doing is wrong? By kicking the kid out of the school, the church is basicly giving up the only area of influence that they have over the sinner. Looks to me that this women has some good things going for her already:

1. She believes in God

2. She believes that following the bible is good

3 She desires to have her kid brought up with those same values

As a Christian who desires to help people, sounds like a good base to work from if you ask me.
39 posted on 05/17/2002 5:07:01 AM PDT by Honcho
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Matt 5:27-28
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Gal 5:16-17
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

James 1:14-16
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

I Jn 2:15-17
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Luke 17:1-2
1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

49 posted on 05/17/2002 5:20:36 AM PDT by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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As a requirement for admission, parents of prospective students must sign a "commitment" to support the philosophy of the school. That philosophy, in part, reads: "Emphasis is placed on learning about God and the truths of God's Word in relationship to man and his world; recognizing that the way to God comes through personal faith in Jesus Christ; and Christian maturity comes by application of the truths of the Bible in all areas of life." In signing the document, parents agree to maintain a "partnership" with the school "regarding the standards and criteria of a Christian learning structure that involves the entire family."

Tell me again exactly what commandant is being broken here?
Unless there is a clear violation of the law, I would respectively suggest the school go pound sand.
It should be against the law to willfully become an indentured servant simply by attempting to provide an education for your offspring.
No one should have to sign away their rights to educate their family.
The school is holding a child’s education hostage by demanding arbitrary behavior from a free and law abiding citizen and this practice should be halted.

52 posted on 05/17/2002 5:28:22 AM PDT by TightSqueeze
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dunno how litigation is relevant, but guess it'll provide "infotainment"....
53 posted on 05/17/2002 5:30:08 AM PDT by 1234
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Does anyone have a picture of this lady?
71 posted on 05/17/2002 6:05:47 AM PDT by Rodney King
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How did the school find out? Was one of these holier than thou art schmucks getting his two faced rocks of in a topless bar?
77 posted on 05/17/2002 6:13:31 AM PDT by Nov3
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The first thing that the pastor said was that this was a covenant Christian school. As a covenant school parent, she signed a form in the beginning of the application process that she would follow a certain set of values and behavior which the school considers consistent with the teachings of Christ. In other words, SHE AGREED TO THE SCHOOL'S RULES BEFORE THE CHILD EVEN WAS ACCEPTED.

Notice that they have not judged her (or her child) but only her occupation. They have offered to help her find other work and make the financial transition to a lifestyle they consider appropriate for a school parent. FOR WHATEVER REASONS (AND THE LURE OF MONEY IS AMONG THEM), SHE HAS CONTINUED TO CHOOSE THIS LIFESTYLE. IT IS HER CHOICE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE A POOR ROLE MODEL FOR HER DAUGHTER. THIS IS CONTRARY TO THE SCHOOL'S COVENANT.

Finally, does she really think that she's doing her daughter a favor when some guy comes up to her in public and tells her what a hot bod she has? This is "good mothering"?

WWJD? I think that he would act in the same compassionate, patient manner the school did. The sins of the parents may or may not be visited upon the child, but inevitably, the selfish choices and hypocritical values of this mother will be.

123 posted on 05/17/2002 6:46:58 AM PDT by MHT
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Stripper Mom: I'm Following The Bible

I'll retire to Bedlam.

Dan
Biblical Christianity message board

145 posted on 05/17/2002 7:04:17 AM PDT by BibChr
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Christians not only have every right to exclude from their membership people who choose to exibit poor moral choices, but are commanded to do so.

Titus 2:11 "For the Grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. Teaching us that denying ungodliness and wordly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world. Looking for that blessed hope, and the appearing of the great God and our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exort with great authority. Let no man despise you. Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work.

This tells Christians to not be shy about demanding their right to fit this description and ask those that wish to associate with their membership to do the same. The bible also tells Christians to put away from their midsts those that will not repent. Not out of malice, but that God may give them over to Satan which may draw them to repentence and salvation of their souls.

1 Timothy 1:20 "Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

The problem with Christians today is that they most don't know who they are or what is expected of them. This Church doesn't seem to have this problem. They are not only within their rights, but within God's will. They don't hate this woman, she has made her choice and they have made their's, the two are not compatible, so she needs to make another choice or move on.

185 posted on 05/17/2002 7:41:26 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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In signing the document, parents agree to maintain a "partnership" with the school "regarding the standards and criteria of a Christian learning structure that involves the entire family."

I wondered about this when I first heard the story. Sounds like to me the Mom didn't live up to the agreement she signed. At the same time, the school could've dealt with this in a better manner.

The one who is getting hurt in all of this is the little girl, not the mom or the school.

280 posted on 05/17/2002 9:07:03 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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Sacramento, California! One of my co-workers used to send his daughter to this very same school. When he told me about the agreement they signed, I knew the school was RIGHT in what they did. The stripper mom is WRONG up the wazoo. If she doesn't want to stop stripping, then put her precious daughter in some other school.
281 posted on 05/17/2002 9:10:41 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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Like I always say:

Doesn't matter where you read the menu,
Just as long as you go home for supper!

305 posted on 05/17/2002 10:23:58 AM PDT by gwynapnudd
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(I am not referring to L. N. Smithee) For anyone who is not a Christian to be posting an opinion on this matter is the same as commenting on calculus when you've never taken math. To live the life of a Christian involves a belief system that, by definition, is much more than subcribing to a set of "rules." For centuries there have been individuals commenting for instance on the things of the Bible having never read it or at minimum, read some passage(s). To anyone with a modicum of intelligence that is unacceptable. It's so easy to point at Christians and mock them for their beliefs and the lives they try to live while existing in this world. We don't claim to be perfect, it is the opinion of non-Christians that we do. Just look at what the secularists have accomplished eliminating God from the earth. Yes, this woman is as wrong as wrong can be for a Christian. You cannot claim a belief system and then violate it. Her faith in God to provide for her and her daughter is nearly non-existent. There are endless stories of God's provision in the worst of circumstances, however you have to know and believe that He will do what He says He will.
322 posted on 05/17/2002 11:45:19 AM PDT by elephantlips
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