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Chandra: Conspiracy or incompetence? Did the DC police, or anyone, use cadaver dogs?

Posted on 05/23/2002 4:49:57 AM PDT by ken5050

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To: MadelineZapeezda
Truffles in DC?..that's a new one for me....
21 posted on 05/23/2002 5:18:26 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: all
It is my understanding that this area was foot searched with no dogs used in this area. If she was in shallow grave then they may have walked right over her grave. Also the area is close (very close) to a residential area. Neighborhood dogs and strays, along with raccoons and other wildlife would have dug up the body, also since it is on a slope the weather and rain would have eventually also uncovered a shallow grave.

Only time will tell if her body had been there a long time and maybe how she was killed. If she was shot or stabbed, they may find a weapon in the location after an intense search of the area.

I hope and pray that they do find some form of evidence and answers by looking over the remains and the area where they were found.

I know that parents have been through hell but I hope that they allow the remains to be fully looked over before putting them in a final resting place.

I am also hoping that the cops already know who did it and just needed to find the body and a little evidence to finally pin it on the person they suspect. Now they have the remains, will someone maybe be arrested soon? (let's hope so)
22 posted on 05/23/2002 5:27:11 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: mr1776
"I do think it was a murder though..."

And I would have to agree. Had she fallen out due to some unusual medical situation she wouldn't have been so off "the beaten path", IMHO.

My two cents of speculation...
Chandra receives word from Mr.X saying he works with/for her married lover and that he wants to meet her at/near that mansion at a specific time. Don't do anything to draw attention..just blend in and look like a typical jogger. No need for a cell phone either. Ms Levy trys to find Mr.X's name listed a website along with Condit. She also looks at info on this mansion as well as info on the paths within the park. At some point she exits her apartment with only her keys. Another specuation.. She went jogging to burn off nervous energy, something captures her attention up in the woods (a turtle perhaps) and while exploring something happens. end speculation

I hope ya'll don't mind me speculating here. So many people have said that, while Chandra did make some unwise choices, she was aware of the safety issues of running in DC. I can't help but feel that something caused her to let down her guard.

I hope that this sad discovery can at least give Dr. and Mrs. Levy some peace in finally being able to lay their daughter to rest, many parents never get that chance. My heart goes out to them.

23 posted on 05/23/2002 5:27:31 AM PDT by sweet_diane
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To: mr1776
Hey- great minds think alike!
24 posted on 05/23/2002 5:28:42 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: mr1776
Yes, I understand the body was found on a steep slope in a densely wooded area. Doesn't sound much like a jogging path to me. Maybe I've watched too many 'On the case, Tuesdays' on Discovery; but, I believe statistics show that most (85%, I think) murders are committed by someone the victim knows. The fact that Chandra made computer searches of Condit's committees, Rock Creek Park, and specifically Klingle Mansion just prior to her disappearance is extremely suspicious.

I suspect the D.C. Police will interview the Cadets responsible for searching this area a year ago to determine if the spot was overlooked or positively searched.

25 posted on 05/23/2002 5:29:11 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Japedo
Could it be it has a steep incline or small cliff, or quite possibly hard to get to?

Which makes one wonder how somebody could have gotten a body there or why she would have walked there
26 posted on 05/23/2002 5:29:50 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob
It sure doesn't sound like she fell there, does it?
27 posted on 05/23/2002 5:35:16 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: AKA Elena
More dog information.
28 posted on 05/23/2002 5:35:35 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: brigette
You may be right about the rain. DC metro area has been experiencing the worst drought since 1930-31, which was a bad one, but we have had quite a bit of rain in the past month or so. Heavy wind, too, even a tornado.
29 posted on 05/23/2002 5:38:43 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: uncbob
Well IMO If we go with the Serial Killer Scenario , Could be someone played lame duck? (Much like Ted Bundy did with his broken arm/foot ect) Perhaps she was jogging and ran over to help someone, they raped (not proven) and killed her.. Have it being off the beaten path, and in a city where no on pays attention I find that a likely Scenario . (Just my speculation though!! )
30 posted on 05/23/2002 5:38:47 AM PDT by Japedo
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To: sweet_diane
It is not at all uncommon for pretty joggers to be snatched from the jogging path, raped, and murdered. Unfortunately.
31 posted on 05/23/2002 5:41:14 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: ken5050
Alternatively, it could imply that the body was dumped there after the search. Possible, but unlikely, because the body was dumped with clothes and personal effects. Anyone who would have kept the body hidden for some time would NOT have dumped her Sony Walkman with her weeks after.

Good point about the Walkman.

Also, it is very unlikely they dumped her afterwards because of the location of the site to parking.

The killer would have had to carry her 100++ pound body a very long way from parking, up rugged rocky trails, across hills, etc., and run the risk of discovery. Dismemberment is out -- they wouldn't have hidden everything in one place.

32 posted on 05/23/2002 5:44:03 AM PDT by Old Lady
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To: Sungirl
the park is 1700 acres.....that's a big area.

Yes, but searching less than all of the park is ridiculous. I have no idea how long it takes one cadaver dog to cover an acre. But, given the serious nature of the crime (a US Congressman is a suspect), I presume enough dogs could have been brought to the scene for a thorough search that would have taken less than a month.

33 posted on 05/23/2002 5:47:14 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: ken5050
I don't know if dogs were used, but I remember seeing the "kids" doing the searching and it didn't look like they were trying too hard.

I'm wondering if Chandra didn't go to the Park to meet Condit to get a plane ticket home. I recall some information about "plane tickets" awhile back. So he could have used the excuse that he got her one, so she would meet him there.

BUT, OTOH, John Walsh, the supreme guru of AMW, has pronounced Chandra's murder that of a "serial killer", so he will feature this on an upcoming program. He said that he would meet with the Levy's because they now belong to the "same club of murdered children".

How does anyone think the Levy's will greet the idea of a "serial killer" when Walsh tries to say this?

sw

34 posted on 05/23/2002 5:50:17 AM PDT by spectre
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To: ken5050
I've have said all along: she was a victim of random street crime...like the other 2 missing young white girls in the past 3 years in dc.
35 posted on 05/23/2002 5:59:06 AM PDT by mrs1
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To: spectre
Uh, Mr. Walsh...It's an 8 mile jog from Chandra's apt to the place where she was found. Chandra didn't like the idea of jogging in DC which was why she joined a health club. According to family and friends she wasn't an avid jogger anyway. And who in their right mind would go for an 8 mi jog in a metro area without a cell phone?
37 posted on 05/23/2002 6:02:44 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Sungirl
It's 1700 acres, but they didn't have to search all of it. Just the heavily wooded, not easily accessible bits where someone could hide a body.
38 posted on 05/23/2002 6:04:40 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: uncbob
What I wanna know is what the hell happened to the body to get it to the point that they only found skeletal remains? Hell I'm no mortician but I doubt it'd take a year for a body to decompose to that point.

And whoever dumped the body has to be the biggest idiot walking God's green earth to leave an intact skull for the authorities to lift an identity from dental records.

39 posted on 05/23/2002 6:04:49 AM PDT by Severa
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To: ken5050
If they were used, then, from what I've read about the ability of the dogs, it would be impossible for the dogs not to hit on the scent. So, what does that mean?

I'm guessing someone didn't want the body found. I have heard stories of dogs that can scent the area where someone's body lies under fairly deep water. It's very possible (IMO) that someone (whoever *that* may be... ahem...) moved the body around until the pressure was off and then dumped her in Rock Creek Park after the searching in that area was over.

40 posted on 05/23/2002 6:07:03 AM PDT by Terriergal
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