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6/25/08 | self

Posted on 06/25/2008 7:24:15 AM PDT by svcw

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To: Quix
Why is it THAT MEN have trainloads of 'kosher' EMOTIONAL EXPRESSION for football heroes right out in front of God and everyone (often even captured on international TV) AND NOT A SHRED of really involved WHOLE PERSON WORSHIP in the protective walls of a church?

That's a good observation. It's a peculiarity of our culture that fervent enthusiasm over naked women, sports, or even patriotism is considered praiseworthy, while fervent worship of God is considered vulgar or hypocritical.

201 posted on 06/25/2008 10:45:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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To: stuartcr
What about people that do not believe as you do? Doesn’t God know if someone is going to believe or not, if what you call ‘God’s word’, really is the word of God?

You're just full of questions aren't you?

Tell us what YOU believe why don't you? It might be nice to know a bit more of the mindset and values that I'm dealing with here. How about it?
202 posted on 06/25/2008 10:45:38 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But noooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly man' .)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’m sure that’s what you believe, but what about those people that God created, that do not believe that?


203 posted on 06/25/2008 10:47:44 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
You’re saying then, that God is limited, and He has to operate according to what you believe?

I've said no such thing. God operates according to His Word. He will not act in any manner which is contrary to His Word.

It seems to me that you are attempting to define God in a way that is most convenient for you. God is not about convenience and He is not subject to our earthly definitions and expectations of what He ought to Be.

"Man proposes, and God disposes."

You want to know about God?

Start with the Bible.
204 posted on 06/25/2008 10:48:26 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But noooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly man' .)
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To: ChurtleDawg

Actually, it is being born again that allows you to “turn your heart to the Lord.” Before that you are spiritually dead.


205 posted on 06/25/2008 10:51:07 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: mkjessup

That’s pretty obvious, seeing that I’ve asked dozens of questions.

I will say again; I believe in one God, and He is capable of anything.

Your turn. If you do not want to or cannot answer, I will understand.


206 posted on 06/25/2008 10:52:25 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: mkjessup

How do you know God doesn’t have more than one word?

I define God as capable of all things. You seem to limit Him to operating only within your beliefs.


207 posted on 06/25/2008 10:54:31 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Gamecock

I am a Christian who has not hit rock bottom and claimed to be born again. I have not lowered myself to qualify to be born again...lol.


208 posted on 06/25/2008 10:55:51 AM PDT by Fawn (We live in the Greatest country in the world, And I HOPE to CHANGE that -- Hussien Obama)
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To: stuartcr

You need to ask God yourself about that..

I have no answers other than those God gives me in His word..

Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:15:18


209 posted on 06/25/2008 10:56:55 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: stuartcr
I know a faith is incorrect because I know the truth.

The truth is there is but one God.

If all faiths were equal, then my faith would be incorrect and so would many others, there for unnecessary.

Let's play the opposite game a bit. Are Satanism or Wicca faiths, if so then they are equal and their evil practices should be allowed.

Islam is a faith, it teaches in their own holy book they must subdue or destroy non believers. Therefore 9/11 was a simple act of an equal faith and should be overlooked in order to allow for tolerance.

Trying to please everyone become a slippery slope, one that the Evil love so. Why do you think liberalism is so allowing and tolerant.

210 posted on 06/25/2008 11:00:29 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: stuartcr

The problem with man is sin. God’s holy nature is incompatible with sin. Mankind is incapable of solving its sin problem. We sin even when we try not to, and we have no means of cleansing ourselves. The only solution was for God, in the form of Jesus, to become a man. He lived among us without sin—the only person in the history of the world to do so —and then He gave His life on the cross as a propitiation for the sins of all mankind. By His blood we can now be cleansed, IF by faith we accept His free gift. No other person who ever lived solved the sin problem. Muhammad was too busy raping and murdering to even think about it. Buddha died, but not as a sacrifice on behalf of mankind, and he was not resurrected. Only Jesus offers—and is able to offer—eternal life with Himself in heaven. You may not like it; you may not believe it. But that’s the way it is.

PS: As C. S. Lewis said, what you think of God isn’t the issue. It’s what He thinks of you. You can strategize all day about what you think He is and can or can’t do. It doesn’t matter. He has chosen to reveal Himself in the Bible, and in the Bible He also offers a way of salvation. Take it or leave it.


211 posted on 06/25/2008 11:02:31 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: stuartcr
That’s pretty obvious, seeing that I’ve asked dozens of questions. I will say again; I believe in one God, and He is capable of anything. Your turn. If you do not want to or cannot answer, I will understand.

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, NO one cometh unto the Father except by Me"

Saying that you believe in one God and that He is capable of anything is a pretty safe and benign statement to make.

Jesus said that He is the ONLY way to the Father, He said 'The Father and I are One' and He also said "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father".

I believe that there is no other path of Salvation except through Jesus Christ. Jesus said it Himself. If a person chooses to believe there are 'other ways' to reach God, then they are making out Jesus to be a liar, indeed they are painting Him as either the greatest liar of all time, the greatest mad man or con man of all time, or all three.

Even the Devil believes in one God, and knows that He is capable of anything (proviso: capable of anything that does not violate or contradict His Word).

I haven't failed to answer you yet, but I'll understand if at some point you want to discontinue this discussion.
212 posted on 06/25/2008 11:11:55 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But noooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly man' .)
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To: Fantasywriter; stuartcr

Your post in #211 said it perfectly. I can add little to it.


213 posted on 06/25/2008 11:13:19 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But noooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly man' .)
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To: mkjessup

Did it ever occur to you that not everyone is willing to put your interpretation of the Bible on equal footing with the existence of God?


214 posted on 06/25/2008 11:13:57 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

It doesn’t matter to me. I will state what I know to be the Truth, which is Jesus Christ. Others are free to agree, disagree, or reject it. What they do or say will not change what I believe.

I’ve got no problem with that.


215 posted on 06/25/2008 11:16:12 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But noooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly man' .)
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To: mkjessup

Well I should mention that I have been enriched by all your posts. You have remained kind and responsive, and you come across as very knowledgeable. I am still amazed at your story of the car crash. What a story! Thanks so much for sharing it.


216 posted on 06/25/2008 11:16:36 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
You hit on something that was a discussion sometime ago among some friends of mine.

Christianity is the one and only faith where the Holy One actually gives to his faithful instead of takes. He gave his Son, and he gave his grace and only asks that we believe in him. From that he knows we will do what is right, will act and behave as we should, and follow his example, because his spirit then dwells within us.

In all other faiths, the “god” figure makes demands, takes from their followers then tells them they may or may not see heaven. Their “god” basically says “here's a list, get these things done and I may let you in”. Their “god” is a greedy one, and the only other spiritual entity with any real power out there in reality is the evil one himself. He is the one who is always interested in taking, ultimately the very souls themselves. Who then would be the entity in charge of these other faiths, the ones that like to “take” from their adherents...

217 posted on 06/25/2008 11:17:48 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: Fantasywriter

I appreciate that FRiend.

As amazing as my survival in that crash was, it was just one of the many ways, every day (and night) that God chooses to manifest Himself in response to a plea for mercy, help, or deliverance, and He would have been more than justified to have just let me be snuffed out. I remain a sinner saved by Grace and His Blood.

I would say also, that your posts are of enormous encouragement to me and to anyone seeking the answer to that eternal question “What must I do to be saved?”

May the Lord be with you FRiend.

Best,

MKJ


218 posted on 06/25/2008 11:18:57 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But noooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly man' .)
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To: Tennessee Nana

No I don’t. I want to ask people here on FR, not God. I ask others about their beliefs, and see what they say. If you can’t or don’t want to answer, just say so.


219 posted on 06/25/2008 11:20:41 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: 1rudeboy

Now, now, don’t start taking your own opinions seriously as fact, no one else does it appears. And no I don’t have time to do something that you want me to do just to reinforce your opinions.
“cute”? Since the word is an aphetic form of “acute”, meaning,’mentally sharp, alert’, yeah, I’ll accept that term even if is subjective. (When you come back I’ll deal with the difference between subjective/objective/ as it relates to accuracy of statement.)
You may now return to your “1rudeboy”ness.


220 posted on 06/25/2008 11:22:39 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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