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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: BP2
Do you think — given the time and motivation — you could have made this too?

You mean as a physical document indistinguishable from a genuine Hawaiian document? Sure. Just get me some of the paper and the seal. :)


3,121 posted on 03/06/2010 10:07:27 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
You mean as a physical document indistinguishable from a genuine Hawaiian document? Sure. Just get me some of the paper and the seal. :)



You'd probably do a better job on the Obama COLB seal than this one shown below given the time.


3,122 posted on 03/06/2010 10:26:19 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: KenyanBCPunkster; All

> Do you think — given the time and motivation —
> you could have made this too?

>> Sure. Just get me some of the paper and the seal. :)

About 10 years ago, the going rate for a fake US Military ID was about $500.
It's more than tripled now, but quite doable with the right contacts; the bad guys
just need some extra bribe money to get it registered into the DEERS system,
then it's damn near impossible for OSI to catch them without a subsequent background check.

Even with all of the counter-counterfeiting measures in place — it's expensive,
but if properly motivated
— one could even clone a passport good enough (complete with
holographic overlay
) to get close enough to (allegedly) assassinate a member of Hamas in UAE.

Melvyn Mildiner A passport picture claiming to be Melvyn Adam Mildiner
'Scared': Melvyn Mildiner, left, and the picture used in
the cloned passport, right, claiming to be him.


Could you manufacture birth certificate paper to appear to be VERY authentic
right down to the watermark and seal — if you were motivated to do so?

Obviously, there IS a market for that type of thing ...

"So Ya Want To Run Away" - People Soup, 1982, Issue No 2 -- Fake Birth Certificate

3,123 posted on 03/06/2010 10:46:14 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...

> You mean as a physical document indistinguishable from a
> genuine Hawaiian document? Sure. Just get me some of the
> paper and the seal. :)

In other words, referring back to Post 3123, if properly motivated, it is VERY possible to reproduce a fake birth certificate, correct?


3,124 posted on 03/06/2010 11:03:43 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2; Red Steel; Fred Nerks; rxsid; DJ MacWoW

FYI .. that punky bc thread last summer:

~~~~

Is this really it? (re: possible Obama’s Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT · by rxsid

10,688 replies

453,871+ views

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3,125 posted on 03/06/2010 11:46:05 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE; KenyanBCPunkster; parsifal; edge919; mlo; Non-Sequitur; Drew68; curiosity; Sibre Fan; ...

Thanks for the info.

The so-called “punk'd birth certificate,” true or not, only goes to prove how easily it could have been for a bunch of CORRUPT politicians and their cronies to have produced a fake birth certificate that:

- only a handful of hand-picked people at FactCheck have seen
- has NEVER appeared in Court to be accepted as prima facie "fact"
- was done by crooks who were motivated to pull off one of the most far-reaching frauds in history


It certainly wouldn't be the first major fraud pulled off on the American public, now would it?

Newsweek US Cover Global Warming is a Hoax 13 August 2007


3,126 posted on 03/07/2010 12:17:40 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2; Candor7
BAM!!!!


3,127 posted on 03/07/2010 12:32:49 AM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: BP2
In other words, referring back to Post 3123, if properly motivated, it is VERY possible to reproduce a fake birth certificate, correct?

Sure.

So?


3,128 posted on 03/07/2010 9:11:43 AM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: SeattleBruce

“An after-birth(er) is also ejected from the mother’s body, and discarded as waste...

Just sayin’...:)

In support of the US Constitution.”

This is something I already knew, but thanks.


3,129 posted on 03/07/2010 9:16:18 AM PST by stockpirate (Hey Beck, Thomas Jefferson was a birther!)
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To: STARWISE

Linky no workee for me.


3,130 posted on 03/07/2010 9:18:39 AM PST by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messiah. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: STARWISE

~Tagged


3,131 posted on 03/07/2010 9:18:56 AM PST by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=855#855~)
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To: freebird5850; STARWISE

It didn’t work for me either.


3,132 posted on 03/07/2010 9:24:28 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: freebird5850; DJ MacWoW

Thar was the views lookup - not clicking in today, probably because it’s in the archives.

Here it is

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts


3,133 posted on 03/07/2010 9:28:05 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Here you go.

Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link


3,134 posted on 03/07/2010 9:30:25 AM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: MestaMachine; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...
I am getting ,"your writing will be reviewed before posting."

This means the pig breath trolls are complaining to the mods en masse about me. I have been firing for effect.LOL.

And if this political correctness crap continues, I will not be frequenting this site. I will visit occasionally.

There are better places where I can carry on the fight against the fascist left and their RINO running dogs, some of whom are MODS.

Good luck on the next fund raising drive guys!

3,135 posted on 03/07/2010 9:53:20 AM PST by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: seekthetruth

But, the more pressing question is who all have had dinner with Jim Thompson? Though rather elusive, I hear he’s very charming and quite the conversationalist.


3,136 posted on 03/07/2010 9:58:13 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: BP2

“Well funded nay sayers”? Good grief. Billions of dollars are going to the warmists, and the nay sayers have to fend for themselves.

Try to get a government grant if you are a nay-sayer. That isn’t the party line.


3,137 posted on 03/07/2010 10:00:25 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Candor7
You
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*****flack*****
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Target


3,138 posted on 03/07/2010 10:00:27 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 409 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Candor7

You are one of the good guys and I would miss you.


3,139 posted on 03/07/2010 10:04:04 AM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: MHGinTN
Since there has yet to be an authentic CoLB made public for the affirmative action fraud-in-chief, heaqd democrat, how will anyone know when an authenitc one IS produced? I mean, factcheck has posted three different versions and Barry’s own political campaign site posted two of those. The shell game is designed for this sort of deceit!

That's exactly why they're playing this game. They know they can never produce the real one for whatever reason. This bait and switch is constantly changing just in case someone actually does get hold of the real thing. By the time that happens, and they know it will eventually happen, no one will believe it and they have won.

3,140 posted on 03/07/2010 10:04:16 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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