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Mike Huckabee? Are you kidding? Who are you people?
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Posted on 10/23/2007 8:22:42 AM PDT by pissant

Arkansas Governer Mike Huckabee suddenly seems to be the established GOP savior. True, he is great on the stump. He is and should be a preacher. But president? NOT if you're a conservative!

Remember, a lot of Arkansans voted for a Clinton presidency so they could get him out of the state! Most of them feel as uninspired about the Huckster. YES, I do mean Huckster.

I made a prediction a few months back, that Huckabee would get a GOP push, that he would be perfect pick to them to balance out a moderate Rudy type candidate with his southern charm and religiosity. Now, I'm convinced of it.

A wise observer stated one of Huck's problems perfectly, "Yep Huckabee is his own man alright, except when it comes to illegal immigration. Then he’s George Bush."

Huck talks some good lines on immigration in the debates, but look at some recent statements he's made. In other words, does this man stand by his own policies? One thing that has angered Arkansans is that Huck financed a Mexican Consulate in Little Rock with their tax dollars and insisted on alien children be admitted to college!

LITTLE ROCK -June 30, 2005 - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.

"I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...," Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.

Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.

In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.

"Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority," Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter. He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state's capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation.

"Your gathering is so very significant for our state," Huckabee said. "We are delighted to have you......"

He has compared illegal aliens to slaves brought here in chains from Africa, saying, "I think frankly the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better than we did before."

Toward that end, when an Arkansas legislator introduced a bill that would prevent illegal aliens from voting and receiving state benefits, Huckabee denounced the bill, saying it would rile up "those who are racist and bigots."

He also made the insane point that companies like Toyota would not invest in Arkansas if the state didn't allow non-citizens to vote because it would "send the message that, essentially, 'If you don't look like us, talk like us and speak like us, we don't want you.'

One other bone of contention is shown in this video, where Huckabee Calls for National Smoking Ban in Public Places. Nanny state, anyone?

Ann Coulter sums it up:

"Like all the (other) Democratic candidates for president, he supports a federal law to ban smoking -- unless you're an illegal alien smoking at a Toyota plant. (I just realized why Mike Huckabee can't run for president as a Democrat -- they've already got Mike Gravel.)"


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: arkansas; duncanhunter; fredthompson; huckabee; immigration; mikehuckabee
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Send him packing!


41 posted on 10/23/2007 8:43:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: OB1kNOb
Opposed all efforts to reduce the sales tax on groceries and prescription drugs, even in years with a budget surplus. Heck, our new Democrat (liberal at that) Governor, under public pressure, agreed to a reduction in grocery sales tax...

Not too friendly to seniors is he? Especially in a state like Arkansas.

42 posted on 10/23/2007 8:52:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Uncle Ivan

Why?


43 posted on 10/23/2007 9:01:19 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!! The only one who can beat Hillary!!!!)
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To: Kevmo

Amen to that!


44 posted on 10/23/2007 9:03:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: upsdriver
Because he has absolutely no chance of winning the nomination, or even cracking five percent.

As good of a conservative as Hunter is, he needs to step aside and let the spotlight be put on those who have a real chance of winning the nomination. Tancredo and Paul need to do the same.

As for Huckabee, he's a joke. Many of us Arkansans realized this quite some time ago. I'm mystified as to why most people nationally haven't.
45 posted on 10/23/2007 9:18:51 PM PDT by Uncle Ivan (FredOn: Apply Directly to the White House)
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To: pissant

he sounds just like the asshats that ran off from here for Wideawakes and DC


46 posted on 10/23/2007 9:20:33 PM PDT by wardaddy (Behind the lines in Vichy Nashville)
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To: Uncle Ivan

they didn’t figure out Slick either though any Southern right winger could tell Slick was full of it


47 posted on 10/23/2007 9:22:04 PM PDT by wardaddy (Behind the lines in Vichy Nashville)
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To: pissant

“I made a prediction a few months back, that Huckabee would get a GOP push, that he would be perfect pick to them to balance out a moderate Rudy type candidate with his southern charm and religiosity. Now, I’m convinced of it.”

Yeah, balance out a Social Liberal who is for open borders with Fiscal big-Government Fiscal Liberal who is also for open borders and amnesty for illegals in college.

What a great way to total p888 off the small Government wing of the party!

Dang, I hate this, I’m starting to sound like one of those candidate-bashing zealots.


48 posted on 10/23/2007 9:26:40 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
"BABY KILLER/NANNY STATER '08"


Oh, THAT would be inspirational.

*gag*

49 posted on 10/23/2007 9:26:44 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

“I see the train coming down the track from miles away....A gun grabbing baby killer in Giuliani gets the nomination and then feels he needs a left wing theocrat whose only two conservative positions are Rudy’s weakness....guns and abortion. The Huckster gets tapped as VP. Than it becomes BABY KILLER/NANNY STATER ‘08!”

Yeah, and who needs to have 2 of those on a ticket, when you can get two-for-one with HILLARY!


50 posted on 10/23/2007 9:27:52 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: Uncle Ivan

To think the same dopes who call Hunter a “protectionist” and say he has “no chance” have put their support behind pro-amnesty, open-border, MFN Commie-loving RINOs in Congress, Mayor Rooty (of Sanctuary City) or one of these clowns for our next President:


Fred Thompson:

Voted NO on killing a bill for trade sanctions if China sells weapons.

Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam.

Voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China.


John McCain:

Voted YES to give permanent Normal Trade Relations status to China.

Voted to kill an amendment that would require sanctions against China or other countries if they were found to be selling illicit weapons of mass destruction.

Support the One-China policy, don’t weaken it.

Inaction on spying led to Chinese nuclear improvement.

Voted YES on ending Vietnam embargo.

Admit China to WTO based on their concessions.

Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam.


Mike Huckabee:

“The good news is that China is becoming much more a part of the mainstream. In its economic development and even in giving greater liberties to its people.”
(from an interview with Time Magazine - 08-09-2007)

“China’s accession to the WTO is a vital step in its incorporation into the rules-based multilateral trading system. This move will strengthen the rule of law and accelerate domestic reforms in China. The long-term political and social impacts of China’s accession may even exceed the commercial benefits.”
(Permanent Normal Trade Relations - PNTR 03-21-2000)


Sam Brownback:

Voted YES on killing a bill for trade sanctions if China sells weapons.

Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam.

Voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China.


Mitt “Flip” Romney:

“China doesn’t want to bury us. They want to see us succeed and thrive so we can buy more Chinese products”
(so the Chicoms can provide more weapons to our enemies)

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Duncan Hunter is the only one not selling us out to our enemies:

“china is cheating on trade and they’re buying ships, planes and missiles with our money, as well as taking millions of jobs.”

Voted YES on deterring foreign arms transfers to China.

Voted NO on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China.

FRIENDS don’t attack our aircraft and hold our soldiers as hostages:
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/05/01/china.us.plane.04/

Duncan Hunter on Fred Thompson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFOUJ1saOoc

“Free trade” is for our ALLIES, not our communist enemies.


51 posted on 10/23/2007 9:30:27 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: OB1kNOb

” Negatives:

1. Supported taxes (Old-fashioned Tax-and-Spend politician)- engineered a 3% state income tax surcharge (a tax on the tax you paid in income tax) that was supposedly to make up for budget shortfalls - and then kept in in place a year longer than was necessary (and promised).

Raised fuel taxes

Encouraged the use of sales tax as an easy means of revenue boosting.

Opposed all efforts to reduce the sales tax on groceries and prescription drugs, even in years with a budget surplus. Heck, our new Democrat (liberal at that) Governor, under public pressure, agreed to a reduction in grocery sales tax...

2. ArKidsFirst - One of the larges social spending programs in Arkansas history was his baby. I don’t have a problem with helping low income folks get medical care, but I know many folks on it that could afford regular coverage - but why when big gubmint will give it free?

3. Big Government - Huckabee, between his socialist healthcare moves, his heavy hand regarding tobacco use, his mandatory “search lunchboxes of school kids” “health” initiative, and massive expansion of most social programs...

4. Poor record of political appointments - just one example - Sheffield Nelson on the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission - who has single-handedly tarnished the organization and really pissed off sportsmen in the state with his obstructionist and blatantly anti-”regular Joe” initiatives.

5. Illegal Immigration - Huckabee actually called anyone against illegal immigration (those who wanted to prevent free tuition to illlegals, free social benefits to illegals, etc.) non-Christian.

6. Party Affiliation - Huckabee has chosen in the last couple of elections to not be supportive of Republican candidates, including Lt. Governor, when they were a solid conservative choice, preferring more “moderate” or even liberal candidates.”

This guy is more of a RINO than many of those who Freepers like to call RINOS. HUCKABEE SHOULD NOT BE ON THE P OR VP SLOT.


52 posted on 10/23/2007 9:30:42 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: SmithL

LOL. How did I miss this earlier?


53 posted on 10/23/2007 9:31:09 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Uncle Ivan

“As for Huckabee, he’s a joke. Many of us Arkansans realized this quite some time ago. I’m mystified as to why most people nationally haven’t.”

2 factors:

1) Media wants Huckabee for Rudy’s VP. So they are boosting him. (viz. Dick Morris on FoxNews)

2) Huckabee has been quotable in debates, and with a dearth of SoCon RINOS (god forbid people actually look at a 100% conservative like Hunter!) he’s the man to quote.


54 posted on 10/23/2007 9:33:17 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: RasterMaster

“To think the same dopes who call Hunter a “protectionist”...” I wouldn’t call Hunter that, but I also dont anything wrong with Thompson’s votes such as:

“Fred Thompson:
Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam.
Voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China.”

Trade relations helps us. Thinking that way *is* protectionist, and harms our prosperity.

Trade or no trade won’t change what China does with their other relations, eg, military sales, which we and many other countries do too btw.


55 posted on 10/23/2007 9:36:58 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: WOSG

Putting our manufacturing base on the shores of communist countries DOES harm our prosperity. Especially when someone like Clinton pushes “free trade” for our enemies and suddenly they have technology that they were 30 years behind us on just a few before.


56 posted on 10/23/2007 9:52:08 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: WOSG

Iran to buy 24 Chinese fighters built with Israeli technology

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1915446/posts


57 posted on 10/23/2007 9:59:18 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: RasterMaster

Engaging in commerce with other countries does NOT harm our prosperity. You are espousing the myth of protectionism right there... “Putting our manufacturing base” - Ahem, in a free economy, which is the most prosperity-creating form of economy, each individual company can and should make their own decisions about jobs to create here, and about trade to engage in.

We have a record GDP, record number of jobs, and a powerful economy.

You have the view that if China advances, we cannot, when that is economic bunk.


58 posted on 10/23/2007 10:00:06 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: WOSG

When they are arming our enemies with the technology provided, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with “free trade”.

Keeping the technology out of our enemies arsenal...that’s not “protectionism”, that’s SURVIVAL.


59 posted on 10/23/2007 10:03:46 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: RasterMaster

“When they are arming our enemies with the technology provided, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with “free trade”.”

Correct, which is why you should NOT be opposed to trade relations with these countries! The 2 are not synonymous.
Trade is good, it doesnt harm us!

I’ve worked with Chinese citizens and know the technology transfer rules that you have to comply with, etc. We can trade with China without giving away the store.


60 posted on 10/23/2007 10:05:58 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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