Posted on 01/04/2009 5:39:47 AM PST by PurpleMountains
All across the country, archeologists, paleontologists and biologists are taking part in what is perhaps the greatest example of political correctness in history – their adherence to Darwinism and their attempts to ostracize any scientist who does not agree with them. In doing so, they are not only ignoring the vast buildup of recent scientific discoveries that seriously undermines the basics of Darwinism, but they are also participating, due to politically correctness, in a belief system that indirectly resulted in the deaths of millions of people – those slaughtered by the Stalins, the Hitlers, the Maos, the Pol Pots and others who took their cue from Darwinism’s tenets.
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What playing field do you want to be on? If you want to subject your religious beliefs to the scientific method, you're going to very quickly find that those beliefs can't be supported by scientific method.
What, exactly, are your asking for proof of? That evolution occurs? That has been proven by hundreds, if not thousands, of experiments throughout the decades.
I’d still like an answer to my question ... If LIberals believe DARWIN is FACT, Why do they create Welfare programs to Thwart Darwins SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST???
Because few people, especially among the left, use scientific theories as a moral guide. I'm not a liberal, I accept that the TOE is the best theory based on the available evidence, but I certainly don't consider it as a basis for how we should order our society.
It seems that, when pushed to actually defend their viewpoints, many Creationists simply devolve into spittle-flecked invective.
Excellent analogy.
The Palestinians sacrifice their children to Allah as homicide bombers as well as to appease the MSM demigods of public opinion as well placed ‘collateral damage’.
I don’t know what the moderators did, but most of the spittle is now gone.
That doesn’t refute your assertion, but at least it’s not here anymore.
True enough, and evolution isn't even a philosophy. It's the scientific conclusion from the evaluation of all the available evidence.
It could be wrong. I doubt it. It's been examined for longer than Einstein's theories. For many, it's whether to believe that Genesis 1 and 2 are literal, or to believe the facts on the ground.
You'd think that the biblical literalist would finally accept fact. It's not like the Bible isn't filled with parables and allegory. Jesus openly used them. It's the insistence that Genesis is actual fact that causes the controversy.
So we don't find a fossil record of animals that adapted in the wrong way, you claim they are all eaten?! But we find a fossil record of animals that adapted correctly.
That is hard to believe.
Second, there's no such thing as "right direction." Species adapt to survive in their environment. If the environment changes, then the species must either change or die out. To adapt incorrectly is to disappear.
First, there is adaptation in the right direction and the wrong direction, if evolution is random. If a species that moves to a colder climate grows additional fur to stay warm, that is adaptation in the right direction. If a species that moves to a colder climate loses its fur, that is adaptation in the wrong direction.
If animals only adapt in the right direction, it proves intelligent design....that there is a mechanism that causes species to adapt in the right direction.
If the species adapts in the wrong direction, we should find evidence of it in the fossil records. We don't. All we find is evidence of species that adapted in the right direction.
If you want to believe that all those who adapted in the wrong direction were eaten and only those who adapted in the right direction ended up in the fossil record then you simply don't understand the argument.
You like to reach grasp for conclusions about people when the evidence is not there
show the proof of your claims you made about me in your statement
Only in your own mind
I did not know about evolution because I was in a Catholic school and always was taught Adam and Eve and believed it. Then as I got older..I got wiser, gained common sense and logic and saw that Evolution was the real truth. I equate it to not believing in santa claus anymore.
OK, I asked you to point out a species that adapted in the wrong direction and your response is "those that died."?
How about a specific example of a species making the wrong change and ending up dead?
For example, provide evidence that a species whose climate warmed grew more fur and died out. You can't.
From viruses to complex organisms, they adapt by changing in the right direction with relation to their situation. The question is why?
Darwin claims this is random. But random would mean more wrong changes than right, but that never happens.
Therefore, as Intelligent Design proponents claim, there is some mechanism in place that causes adaptation in the right direction.
The latter part of this thread 200+ is a good example of the toxicity that flows from the evos in the name of science.
You give more and more weight to this “Claiming to be about science seems to be an effective means (at least on this forum) to adopt liberal secularist god-hating values and still maintain a pretense of being conservative”
I'm afraid I must disagree, my friend.
First, if the days in Genesis are cosmological/evolutionary epochs, then plants developed before the Sun, and birds developed before land animals. That doesn't fit with the evolutionary timeline, or any one that could resonably be constructed.
Second, there's a whole list of problems with Noah's flood as a local event...in fact I can probably find said list and post a link. But just for an example, if the flood was strictly local, God could have led Noah and the animals of the Mesopotamian region over some mountains and the problem would be solved.
Is that the parts that say "Comment removed by moderator"?
See post 253, if you please.
No - nearly all of those were comments from those who share your views on this issue. One explicitly called my mother a prostitute in rather crude language.
I never denied the existence of apple cores.
Are you sure those comments were from someone who shares my views on the issue?
It appear that I can’t read who I am responding to.
Sorry about that.
Now please excuse me while I work to get both feet out of my mount.
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