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CLIMATEGATE SCANDAL AND THE DEFEAT OF AUSTRALIA’S EMISSION’S TRADING SYSTEM
TheCypressTimes.com ^ | 12/04/2009 | staff

Posted on 12/04/2009 4:30:17 AM PST by Patriot1259

Australian Senate Reaction to Climatgate Could Impact Cap & Trade in U.S.

The news that the world's leading climate science institutions had been collaborating internationally for many years in a systematic and ruthless scientific and financial fraud by which they altered, suppressed, reprocessed, concealed, and conspired to destroy the data on which the world's temperature records are based has come as a wake up call to politicians previously slumbering.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecypresstimes.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: australia; cap; climatechangedata; climategate; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal; trade
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In light of the "ClimateGate" revelations the Australian Senate has defeated their version of Cap & Trade. Will our pols wake up? Will our press cover this story???
1 posted on 12/04/2009 4:30:18 AM PST by Patriot1259
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To: Patriot1259; Horusra; Delacon; Thunder90; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; Nervous Tick; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 12/04/2009 4:32:01 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: Patriot1259
All our big banks are heavily invested in the carbon trading scam. They aren't going to lose that money without a fight.

Lots of good info here for further research.

Carbon trading scam connections
3 posted on 12/04/2009 4:37:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

Why do people set up their site so it’s tough to read. I don’t get it.


4 posted on 12/04/2009 5:21:43 AM PST by kickonly88 (I love fossil fuel!)
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To: cripplecreek

WOW! Quite a list of co-conspirators. International financial oligarchs, UNaccountable bureaucrats and social-engineering frauds calling themselves scientists. Combine that with a current lightweight-socialist president, a Bill Clinton butt-licking POS-scam artist VP, willing statist RINOS, complicit American propagandists...and you have the largest premeditated fraud ever perpetrated on Americans and humanity.


5 posted on 12/04/2009 5:27:06 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

It just goes to show tht none of this is about climate change or protecting the earth. Its about Marxism for the masses and trillions for the top.

Liberals must be very proud that an indian chemical plant has reduced their carbon footprint by pumping real poison into the ground and made millions in doing so.


6 posted on 12/04/2009 5:46:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation” - 23.11 Ch23 Evil; “Economic Harmonies”; Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850


7 posted on 12/04/2009 5:49:23 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Liberals always support various forms of communism in the name of human rights and environment, yet I can’t think of a single instance when human rights and environment haven’t been the first victims of communism.


8 posted on 12/04/2009 6:00:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: steelyourfaith; Patriot1259; ETL; Ernest_at_the_Beach
An interesting observation from wattsupwiththat.com ClimateGate thread (which, as a software developer who has spent time looking at that file and the code, I totally agree with):
The debate about the contents of the HARRY_READ_ME.txt and the validity of the programming and modelling techniques is something only experts and argue over.

However, what the lay person only needs to know this about the programming (which they can verify for themselves from the HARRY_READ_ME.txt file), this file is a THREE YEAR journal of a CRU programmer describing everything he tried with the data and models in an attempt to REPRODUCE existing results CRU had published. Comments in the file make it clear that “HARRY” tried FOR THREE YEARS (2006-2009)to recreate CRU’s published results AND FAILED.

Do you all see the REAL significance of this because it is absolutely fatal to the credibility of anything CRU has produced.

What we have here is a documented THREE year effort by a CRU programmer, who had access to all the data, access to all the code, access to all the people who developed the code and the models and still HE could still NOT duplicate CRU’s OWN results. If he can’t it simply means the CRU’s results cannot be reproduced even by themselves and so there is no point anyone else even trying — CRU themselves have proven it’s a waste of time and so they themselves have proven their own results are plain rubbish. That means any “peer reviewed” document CRU produced along with any other papers that cited the CRU papers are based on data the CRU themselves can’t verify.

Besides, the absolutly sorry state of affairs in the data handling and software managment the HARRY_READ_ME.txt reveals, the utter and total mess of CRU data and software this document reveals is WHY CRU has not released its data and model software.

Given the CRU is one of the most, if not the most cited sources of climate data — upon which trillions of dollars of economic policy is being set, the importance of what the HARRY_READ_ME.txt file reveals becomes scary.

A very nice layman’s summary of some of the issues in the HARRY_READ_ME.txt can be found here

http://www.devilskitchen.me.uk/2009/11/data-horribilis-harryreadmetxt-file.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheDevilsKitchen+%28The+Devil%27s+Kit


9 posted on 12/04/2009 6:01:34 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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Thanks....Now this is BIG:

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a THREE YEAR journal of a CRU programmer describing everything he tried with the data and models in an attempt to REPRODUCE existing results CRU had published.

10 posted on 12/04/2009 11:50:15 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



11 posted on 12/04/2009 11:55:23 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: PapaBear3625
Let's make that last reference a HOT LINK (my terminology ):

Data horribilia: the HARRY_READ_ME.txt file

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Posted by Devil's Kitchen at 11/23/2009 03:56:00 AM

With the CRU emails having been examined, it seems that some people—mainly techies—are really starting to dig into the data files. These files are, as far as we can tell, temperature data, modelling results and other such useful files, i.e. these are the files produced and worked on by the CRU teams, as well as considerable amounts of information on—and code from—the actual computer modelling programmes themselves.

In other words, these are the guts of CRU's actual computer models—the data, the code and the applications.

And they are, by all accounts, a total bloody mess.

12 posted on 12/04/2009 11:56:21 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is there one ‘face’ that dreamed up means and methods of setting up global taxation in the name of science? Or did the conspiracy just evolve through networking of the political and educated elites? One theme is constant that all dots lead to the UN as the heart of this new economy/religion.


13 posted on 12/04/2009 12:15:42 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Let’s see,...was looking last night at a thread featuring Dr. Tim Ball....think I would defer to his opinion...see if I can find it....


14 posted on 12/04/2009 12:19:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All; PapaBear3625; ShadowAce; Marine_Uncle
I've been looking thru the thread at the Devil's Kitchen....and this comment I think is very interesting...and could give some ideas...got me thinking:

See link at post #12:

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 Thortung The Terrible said...

The whole idea of configuration management and change control would appear to be an alien concept to these clowns.

I manage embedded software engineering projects for safety critical systems. As the results of this research are going to be used to direct policy to the tune of billions of pounds, I would expect in their shoes to have to comply with similar high standards, as used in the aviation, rail, automotive and similar applicatons.

I would certainly expect to see a full documentation trail from requirements through to formal test with traceability and would expect to see a documented set of procedures for how they develop code and manage change, V&V etc.

Where these idiots to be subject to a TickIT audit as we plebs in industry are, they would probably hit a hold point (critical non-conformity) within seconds.

Given this total lack of a disciplined and professional approach, I can't see how anyone could even begin to trust the results at all, let alone use them as a basis for £billions of taxation policy.

11/23/2009 11:09:00 AM  

15 posted on 12/04/2009 12:23:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: steelyourfaith; xcamel

See post #15.


16 posted on 12/04/2009 12:24:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

NAMING NAMES:

FROM THE ARTICLE -

The scientists included in the Climategate emails from the University of East Anglia Include:

James Hansen the scientist who kicked off the scare with testimony before Congress in 1988 by saying that temperatures would rise four times faster than they have.

Kevin Trenbirth the author of the now discredited paper of 1997 updated in 2008 pretending to show that there is a dangerous accumulation of heat energy in the atmosphere.

Ben Santer, the scientist who rewrote the main conclusions of the UN’s 1995 Climate Assessment Report so as to change them from a statement that humanity was having no measurable effect on global temperature to a statement that humanity was affecting temperature.

Phil Jones of the University of East Anglia who for years refused to allow other scientists access to his computer programs and temperature data so they could check them and who, as the emails reveal, advised other conspirators that they should destroy data that had been validly requested by other scientists using the UK Freedom of information Act.

Michael Mann of Penn State University who fabricated and contrived the headline graph in the UN’s 2001 climate assessment report which falsely attempted to state that the middle ages were not warmer than the present day when the scientific, historical and archaeological consensus was and is that the middle ages was substantially warmer throughout the world and that today’s temperatures are not exceptional.

Tom Karl the director of the national climatic data center of the US NOAA, who compiled another global temperature record who’s errors and exaggerations of recent warming have caused concern.

Gavin Schmidt who is involved in compiling the temperature record kept by NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies, a record which has repeatedly been found to have exaggerated and overstated recent warming.

Keith Briffa who has succeeded in persuading the conspirators that in order to achieve the desired result of pretending that today’s temperatures are exceptionally wrong that they should rely upon the measurement of tree rings from a single tree in rural Russia.


17 posted on 12/04/2009 12:34:48 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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Thanks Ernest.
18 posted on 12/04/2009 12:42:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Fred Nerks
“James Hansen the scientist who kicked off the scare with testimony before Congress in 1988 by saying that temperatures would rise four times faster than they have.”

And the same year the IPCC was ‘birthed’.

http://www.ipcc.ch/organization/organization_history.htm

Is James Hansen the ‘daddy’ of the movement or was he working for someone else researching temperatures rising? He had to have been ‘studying’ the idea for some time prior to 1988, for to give this kind of testimony prophesying the doom of Mother Earth.

19 posted on 12/04/2009 12:45:51 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
In other words, these are the guts of CRU's actual computer models—the data, the code and the applications. And they are, by all accounts, a total bloody mess.

More than that, looking at the actual code exposes the fact that they are openly and unambiguously fraudulent, when you notice the places where they bury code that fudges the data to make it align with what they want it to show.

People need to go to jail over this. (and I'm not talking about the whistle-blower.

20 posted on 12/04/2009 12:47:42 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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