Skip to comments.DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms date accepted and date filed on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms Date accepted by the State Registrar and Date filed by the State Registrar referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of Oahu or on the neighbor islands of Kauai, Hawaii, Maui, Molokai, or Lanai), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of Oahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the Date filed by the State Registrar is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obamas Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
It looks like Dr. Orly Taitz has her own thread there. That was nice of them.
parsy, who appreciates politeness
Just trying to make you feel more comfortable, Parnsip.
I would put on a Bigfoot suit for you, but then I might find myself
in a snare trap set by some After-Birther nut looking for a way to
prove more dubious claims from unknown eyewitnesses.
The Punk'd photos were taken months after the original photo was taken. In fact, the original photo was taken months before it ever became public.
Quite the "story" you weave, punki.
It sounds equally as easy to make up "facts" after the fact.
Get the general idea, Punki?
If your goal coming to FR was to somehow LEGITIMIZE Obama's FactCheck COLB, print yourself an EPIC FAIL award certificate! I could weave a fantastical story that would have you Libs chasing your tails for weeks trying to figure out what the hell is going on, feeding the beast with more twists and turns, real-time. We've done it to you before ... we'll do it to you again.
You only show how easily punking works BOTH ways in the digital age, especially with a CORRUPT Obama COLB Chain of Custody and factoring in that the State of Hawaii has never come out and said they are the source of Obama's FactCheck COLB.
Why on EARTH you After-Birthers TRUST this thing is beyond reason and logic!
Some people post things to draw attention to themselves.
At least I can say I heard it directly form someone’s mouth.
That description was taken from a we site to illustrate that converting files is indeed optimizing photos.
The poster that I sent that to said that optimizing and file conversion were not the same.
.jpeg is a good format but can slightly dull the edges in certain circumstances due to the compression, not that the casual observer would ever notice though.
Most graphic artist are anal about things like that, hence the description of .jeg
I don't have a clue, I never heard of him either, but apparently he wants to make sure Obama strays in office by using a forged Birth certificate to discredit birthers.
What forum you met on is relevant to your story. We only have your word on how you “met” wiggy. No proof.
I don’t have to show you any statue!
It’s common sense even if you had created a Bogus Birth Certificate for John Lennon and were vague about it’s authenticity for the purposes of creating the illusion that it might be real you would be guilty of a crime.
Follow the steps here,
you made the bogus document,
you promoted it as something that might be real,
and you knew it wasn’t all along,
and you had a definite goal in mind,
to have it be accepted as genuine
so that you could later prove it was not.
That’s a scam and a case of fraud by most definitions.
The difference between you and Ashton Kutcher is that he is a professional with a team of lawyers that carefully studies if his pranks are legal and he gets the permission to use every piece of Video footage he uses on his show from his victims.
If they decline to be on his show he cannot use it.
Your deal to stay here is that you would answer any question asked of you and right now I am asking the questions.
How did Neal Sankey become aware of you and your bogus birth certificate?
Did you contact him first or did he contact you?
How did he come to know you had this document?
Did you conspire with him to pass on your bogus birth certificate as genuine to Orly Tadiz?
How old are you?
What is your occupation?
What is your political affiliation?
What city do you live in?
Do you believe that Barack Obama would be eligible to be president if it was proved that he was born in Kenya?
What was your ultimate goal in creating this document?
“Granted it’s draft version 0.1, but here’s my stab at FICTION:”
Beeps, I hate to be the one to tell you, but you and the Birther Covens have been playing with FICTION, for quite a while. It’s REALITY you guys been stabbing at.
parsy, who starts the day with in a jolly fashion....
He’s the “Scotland Yard” P I who gave the world the ridiculous list of social security numbers. He candidly admits it doesn’t prove anything.
parsy, the helpful
If we needed a reality check, it wouldn’t be you that we asked!
Sankey, on Sankey:
parsy, who notes Sankey keeps coming up with squat
Am I to presume you are now willing to discuss/argue without resort to the “run go tell” option every time your feelings get hurt?
parsy, who is unwilling to speak further to you if the answer isn’t “yes”
As you've been told, it is FR etiquette to ping the person you are speaking about. The mods will cause you pain if you don't.
And I don't debate with jokers who have personality disorders.
parsy who still doesn't understand manners
Why does pinging Jim scare you so much? What are you afraid of?
And yes, I pinged him again. I'm not willing to break the rules just to make you comfortable.
My opinion of your constant sissified whining:
Limerick in Honor of Birther Coven 23
They were into Reality(Not!),
As they tried to invent them a Plot.
They dressed up in leather
And rode bikes together
And went screaming for Mommie! a lot!
And, as I have repeatedly asked, do not post to me until and unless you are ready to “freeper up” without bothering other people to come pull your fat from the fire. What part of that do you not get?
parsy, who you should be ashamed of yourself, Whiny Pill!
While you continue to answer. And no one has EVER had to "pull my fat from the fire". You are not the debater that you think you are. Your incessant whining about FR etiquette proves that.
What part of FR rules do you not get?
parsy who is terrified of JIM ROB
It would have been just as quick to type the name of the forum. If you’re looking for credibility - which is a must if people are to trust you - you don’t get it by refusing to answer easily-answered questions that will help verify your truthfulness.
When I was looking to establish my credibility I would have jumped at any chance to provide verifiable information so people could know I was truthful.
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