Posted on 12/23/2010 4:08:30 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
In light of Britain's Atheist Bus campaign this is probably a good time to mention I have always been a fan of the notion that I don't have enough faith to be atheist....
Apparently atheists don't have enough faith to be atheists either. There's probably no god?!? Does that mean there probably is a God?
This sets up an interesting conundrum for atheist crusaders. If they are "probably right" about there being no God then everything will go black and when we die existence for us will cease to be.
If they are "probably wrong" and there is a God then what do they think will happen to them when they have to face Him in the next life?
Basically, they're damned if they don't, and they be damned if anyone could get them to "do."
By the way, I probably think atheist are stupid.
I would also say that it's most certainly true with a high degree of probability that "probably" is code for "definitely." Its also true with definite degree of probability that "stupid" is also meant to mean "seriously screwed."
They don't believe in God, so they see no need for religion, which prompts them to start an atheist cult so they can tell the world they're "probably" right...
Meanwhile, all people of faith are the logically bankrupt ones in this equation?
How does anyone get this way? Were these people tied to a chair and fed a constant diet of paint chips and helium?
Oh, I'm sorry, am I being ridiuclous?
By the way what is it that atheists think we are consumed by that they need to tell us to "stop worrying" Because of their belief that God is in control eople of faith are truly some of the most worry free people there are.
When anyone assumes you're something that you're not they're reallly projecting their own issues on to you. Without exception the non-religious people in my life are among the most miserable people I personally know. They can't enjoy their life because they get hung up on every little thing that goes wrong in it.
They sweat the small stuff because they don't think there is anything to look forward to after this life. So they want to get while the gettin' is good, and they're never satisfied. They don't know what people of faith know...nothing material in this life can provide permanent or lasting happiness better than faithfulness to God.
This Christmas will be spent as it should be, celebrating the birth of the Son of God, and I'll be doing so happily, because believing in God makes my life more enjoyable.
I'm not going to worry about people who spend their lives WORRIED about making sure people knew that life PROBABLY has no point.
Honestly atheists, I don't care what you want to believe...but please just go find a dark sound-proof closet that you can "play dead" in, and stop trying to be a bummer to people who want to play in the light.
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On a side note, I thought this was a pretty brilliant retort from Neil Stevens over at Red State, I don't think they'd take it well...
Such atheists are NOT the type of anti-Christian bigots who would run such a stupid ad that "boldly" claims that there is no God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager#Criticism
Something sure annoys the atheists who are putting up these silly stickers. What is their idea of “enjoying one’s life”? By example this would seem to be crusading against deity. Is “live and let live” even part of their language?
The fool hath said in his heart, “There is no God.”
I guess “smart” includes a bunch of “fools”. So “smart” is a hard term to peg down.
“it would be proven should their deity appear.”
Their deity did appear.
“Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?”
John 14:7-9
Such people are more “agnostic” than “atheist.” They are usually broad minded enough to say “I’m not yet personally sold that there is a God (or a Christian God) but far be it from me to tell you to stop recognizing one yourself.” Many do come to personal terms with God upon reaching more maturity in their lives.
“Smart” has a spectrum of connotations ranging from rigid pedantry to wisdom. It is not a useful term without context.
This something you believe or something you can prove in court?
If you live your life like there is no God, you’ best be right.
Blaise Pascal himself was an interesting fellow. He had a profound spiritual encounter with the Lord and was impressed enough to write an account of it and sew it into his coat. This surpassed the value of any “wager” to him. He had intellectual difficulty squaring his experience with the philosophy of the church where he went (a Roman Catholic church) but kept loyal to it. If the Wesleyans (aka Methodists) had existed in his day, Pascal would likely have been more copacetic with that.
Just follow FR any day to find out how good the best human courts are at ferreting out cosmic truth. (They suck at it.)
And that's such a small thing to ask, that one saving grace..
You certainly seem to not wish to merely “live and let live.”
bumping...
Your contention is valid. As a Christian, it is only fair for me to tell you that as our Scriptures say, it is not possible for humans to prove that God exists. Even some of the disciples of Jesus had doubts that Jesus was indeed the LORD. You basically have to believe before you can see.
But another point, as Jesus also teaches, is that if someone indicates to you that he is not interested in hearing the Gospel, to not be pushy, and move on.
And by the way my challenge remains and stands. If you make earthly courts your example of proof of the philosophically most important thing to mankind, you had better take into account their actual track record. It is not for nothing that courts traditionally asked the assistance of deity knowing where the mind of man alone could take them.
I can still recite the latin mass from my four years of altar boying back in the early ‘60’s and my later interest into religions in general have left me slightly less than uniformed.
Hilarious and true!
ps I recalculated, it was the late ‘50’s.
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