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Conservative “expert” purists have to recognize people are voting AGAINST Obama not FOR Romney
coachisright.com ^ | Juky 5, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 07/05/2012 10:40:20 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

The Drudge Report carries a picture of Mitt Romney jet skiing with his wife – “Oh no that’s it Barack Obama will cruise to reelection because all is lost!”

A few people, who we’ve heard of, have declared Romney’s campaign virtually dead because THEY don’t like his response to the two worst decisions from the Supreme Court.

These comments are, of course well meaning, but they remind us of the wide gap between grass roots activist TEA party conservative voters and conservative “leaders” who now want to run in front of the parade to appear to be relevant.

There is a huge surge of enthusiasm to get rid of Barack Obama that is happening in the streets and on conservative internet “meeting places” that will flush Barack Obama away in November. How can these “experts” not know this?

In my small but reliable poll 66% my overwhelmingly conservative readers said they were voting AGAINST Barack Obama and just 24% said they were voting FOR Mitt Romney! The large national polls won’t ask this question but that doesn’t alter the truth.

Our “expert” conservative leaders don’t yet understand that not only will conservative voters crawl through broken glass to vote against Obama, BUT more to the point, legions of Americans, especially White voters, who just desperately want Obama gone will see “ROMNEY” as the name on the toilet bowl handle that must be pulled down to flush away Barack Obama – America’s foulest mistake.

Over the past two years Obama’s nationally televised speeches have drawn fewer and fewer listeners. This is because Americans don’t care what he has to say, they want him gone.

Regardless of what he has done, Obama has not gotten ANY lasting “poll bounce” because Americans don’t care what he does, they want…..

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To: butterdezillion
Linda, Obama has done all the same things you criticize Romney for, but also done much, much worse.

The reason Obama has done worse is because Romney has not had the power of the presidency. If you compare candidate Obama to candidate Romney, Romney is worse.


Suppose that the person running neck-and-neck against Adolf Hitler believed in abortion for rape victims but was opposed to the Holocaust. Would you vote for Corrie Ten Boom and allow Adolf Hitler to win the election? Why?

If you did vote for Corrie Ten Boom and Hitler won the election and buried millions of people dead and alive after starving and torturing them, just as everybody knew he would do if he was re-elected.... how would you convince yourself that their blood was not on your hands? How would you convince yourself that it was the God who you trusted who actually failed to protect those innocents, and not yourself?

Please. Your comparisons are crazy please don't compare Corrie Ten Boom to Romney. She was a Christian who stood against evil and not give into the pressures put on her. Romney was a republican who gave liberals what they wanted. The comparison would be : Hitler against Josef Stalin. Both Obama and Romney are responsible for the death of innocent babies.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Butterdezillion, you ARE such a drama queen. Thought you might like some Shakespeare to use to scare us pesky conservatives.

Woe, destruction, ruin, and decay;
The worst is death, and death will have his day.
Let's choose executors and talk of wills:
And yet not so, for what can we bequeath,
Save our desposed bodies to the ground?
Nothing can we call our own but death
And that small model of the barren earth
Which serves as paste and cover to our bones.

Within the hollow crown
That rounds the mortal temples of a king,
Keeps Death his court; and there the antic sits,
Scoffing his state and grinning at his pomp.
And there at Venice gave
His body to that pleasant country's earth,
And his pure soul unto his captain Christ,
Under whose colours he had fought so long.
Go thou, and fill another room in hell.
That hand shall burn in never-quenching fire,
That staggers thus my person. Exton, thy fierce hand
Hath with thy king's blood stain’d the king's own land.
Mount, mount, my soul! thy seat is up on high;
Whilst my gross flesh sinks downward, here to die.

141 posted on 07/05/2012 2:58:15 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: so_real

I think you missed the comparison. Hitler is Obama. The pro-abortion but anti-Holocaust close competitor is Romney. The pure-as-the-driven snow but impossible to elect Corrie Ten Boom is Virgil Goode (hypothetically, or name whatever candidate you consider “pure” enough).

I’m saying would you vote for Corrie Ten Boon, trusting that God would protect the millions of people that Hitler has already shown that he will kill if re-elected..... or would you vote for the flawed (pro-abortion) candidate who could beat Hitler and ensure that the Holocaust didn’t happen?

You could even say that the candidate opposing Hitler is a pro-abortion, anti-Jew, anti-handicapped, white supremacist but he doesn’t support the Holocaust.

See the big difference about Obama is that he is not American; he doesn’t believe in or support any of the things that have made America exceptional - specifically the system of checks and balances, separation of powers, and the rule of law rather than the rule of men. We will always have crooks who want to rule. We will always have fallen people with stupid ideas. That’s a given, and that fits both Obama and Romney - as well as anybody who has been in Washington DC for very long. That’s because power corrupts.

The solution that our Founders came up with is a SYSTEM of accountability. And that system is what Obama is attacking with every ounce of his being, and what Romney has not been attacking.

A white supremacist might morally be a jerk, but if he still administers justice fairly he is a darned sight better than a Hitler, who throws out the rule of law and rules by executive order according to his own personal whims. Romney is flawed but he is not a lawless, anti-American, foreign enemy combatant like Obama has clearly demonstrated that he is.


142 posted on 07/05/2012 3:03:30 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
God is the only One who can save this country. Almost every day my husband and I remind each other that it is up to God whether He gives us another day, and another day of freedom. Because God is the Lord of life.

Exactly, God is the only one who can save our country. But what happened when the people demanded a king (man) like the world had; to replace God? Most of Israel's kings did not follow God's laws (Romney & Obama) and God punished Israel. If we stand with someone we know is evil, we will be held accountable. All people are imperfect, but some are so wicked that we can't help them further evil.

143 posted on 07/05/2012 3:05:47 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: EternalVigilance

I was hoping that you’d see it might not be a crime against humanity, unprincipled, or treason if a person votes for a pro-choice democrat socialist in order to stop a lawless, tyrannical, murderous, communist-Islamist pro-choice democrat socialist who has filled the whole government infrastructure with unaccountable czars who are trampling the rule of law and protecting every thuggish tactic that this puppet’s master chooses to use for the purpose of destroying America and capitalism and installing worldwide sharia for his allies.


144 posted on 07/05/2012 3:08:30 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Linda Frances

Linda, I don’t think you’re capable of following my analogies, since you seem to think I was comparing Romney to Corrie Ten Boom. Maybe we should just drop this discussion.


145 posted on 07/05/2012 3:12:52 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Linda, I don’t think you’re capable of following my analogies, since you seem to think I was comparing Romney to Corrie Ten Boom. Maybe we should just drop this discussion.


Did you enjoy Shakespeare?


146 posted on 07/05/2012 3:16:26 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: C19fan

I did happen to see my first Romney sticker at Mass this morning


147 posted on 07/05/2012 3:16:42 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: butterdezillion

I think you missed the comparison. Hitler is Obama. The pro-abortion but anti-Holocaust close competitor is Romney. The pure-as-the-driven snow but impossible to elect Corrie Ten Boom is Virgil Goode (hypothetically, or name whatever candidate you consider “pure” enough).

Ahhh ... so given a choice between Hitler (Obama), Kai-shek (Romney), and Ten Boom (Goode) ... I vote for Corrie Ten Boom every time. No question or doubt about it. I flip that lever and I don't look back. Great analogy :-)


148 posted on 07/05/2012 3:16:42 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: muawiyah

I agree both candidates are awful


149 posted on 07/05/2012 3:20:14 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: butterdezillion

Linda, I don’t think you’re capable of following my analogies, since you seem to think I was comparing Romney to Corrie Ten Boom. Maybe we should just drop this discussion.


Actually your examples are extreme to say the least. How about you start holding Romney’s feet to the fire NOW. Look at candidate Romney vs. candidate Obama. If all republicans knew the truth about romney, they would have the phones down in DC and romney would be stopped at the convention.

Romney                                                     Obama
pro abortion                                                 pro abortion
pro gay marriage                                        pro gay marriage
pro gay adoption                                          ? 
pro cap and trade                                       pro cap and trade
pro tarp                                                           pro tarp
pro gun control                                             pro gun control 
pro amnesty                                                   pro amnesty
pro raising taxes                                          pro raising taxes
socialized heathcare                                   socialized heathcare
believer in global warming                          believer in global warming

Most conservatives are smart enough to look at what people DO and not what they say. Romney’s fake pro life and pro family stands were for the primary. In his own words, he said he was for one thing, then said and or DID the opposite.  Romney can’t be trusted to keep his word. 

-Romney refused to go to ONE pro life or pro family event. He said conservatives will vote for him. He is arrogant and not a conservative. At least Obama respects his people enough to go to their events and ask for their votes. 

-Romney overruled his own Commissioner of Public Health and lied about state law in order to compel Catholic hospitals to issue abortifacient pills.

-Romney aggressively BOOSTED government funding for pro-homosexuality indoctrination. Parents could not opt out their 5 yr olds from indoctrination.

-Romney forced all adoption agencies in MA to let gays adopt innocent children. The Catholic Church had to stop Catholic Charties Adoption Services after doing it for 109 years.

-Romney refused to sign the pro life pledge. 

-Raised taxes/fees over 300% while being Governor of MA.

-Implemented a state-level Cap and Trade system.

-Supported Man-Made Global Warming.

-Supported the Brady Bill.

- Implemented a state level “Assault” Weapons Ban after the Federal AWB was allowed to expire.

-Supported TARP.

-Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (Citizenship for those already here).

-Supported McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty).

-We know he was the one who went after Sarah and HER FAMILY four years ago. HE gave us Obama. I guess he believed if he can’t win, our nominee can’t either


150 posted on 07/05/2012 3:23:19 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: so_real

I never said that Romney was Kai-shek. You’re the one who said that.

So show me Romney’s murders. Show me his lawlessness and his trampling of the rules and laws governing the powers he has. Show me how he is every bit as bad as Obama. Show me how Romney has done everything in his power to destroy the US economy and all the checks and balances of American government. Show me how Romney supports the Muslim agenda in the US and in the world. Show me the terrorists that Romney socializes with and would install in his regime with unbound, unconstitutional power.

Anybody who thinks that Romney is just as bad as Obama is smoking more than ham. IMHO


151 posted on 07/05/2012 3:25:32 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Linda Frances

Those are political issues and I don’t agree with Romney on them. On those points Obama and Romney may be equal.

But show me where Romney violated the law and the checks and balances to his power. Show me his pile of dead bodies. Show me the terrorists he pals around with. Show me the list of crimes he’s committed, such as forgery, fraud, perjury, bribery, and libel. What serious criminal investigations have been made into his conduct? Has he ever insulted America’s allies? What is his great plan to deliberately destroy the US economy?


152 posted on 07/05/2012 3:33:49 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Linda Frances
Romney                                                     Obama
pro abortion                                                 pro abortion
pro gay marriage                                        pro gay marriage
pro gay adoption                                          ? 
pro cap and trade                                       pro cap and trade
pro tarp                                                           pro tarp
pro gun control                                             pro gun control 
pro amnesty                                                   pro amnesty
pro raising taxes                                          pro raising taxes
socialized heathcare                                   socialized heathcare
believer in global warming                          believer in global warming
Has not yet effed the USA                          Has already effed the USA
153 posted on 07/05/2012 3:34:55 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: butterdezillion

And what happens in April of 2013 (for instance) when Soros makes a run on the bank, Obama declares martial law, and all the Hezbollah operatives poison every state with the bubonic plague so the Islamists can take over the state capitals and Washington DC?


This could happen if Abraham Lincoln was president. If it did, I will be glad I did not vote for someone who stands against God. Don’t let your fears overcome you. If you are a Christian walking with Him, you know He is in control. He allows us to have good and bad leaders for a purpose. That does not mean we should enable or elect bad ones. God knows every hair on your head, trust Him and do what is right in HIS eyes. We all will die one day. If we believe in Him, trusted Him, walked with Him, it will be okay.

The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice, it is conformity.
Anthony Roberts


154 posted on 07/05/2012 3:39:30 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
Hmm, a businessman just like all the other businessmen ~ one after another ~ all same-same?
155 posted on 07/05/2012 3:42:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: butterdezillion
If the Soros communist-Islamist coup gets an Islamist regime under sharia installed within the next 4 years, what will it do to your hopes of getting Scott Walker elected in 2016?

Of all the wild conspiracies, that is the most absurd and unlikely I have heard of. Sharia isn't happening. Liberals don't want that.

But, if Obama wants to try a coup, let him. Let's have a civil war that removes him and thins out the heard of liberals.

156 posted on 07/05/2012 3:47:41 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Starstruck

I was so convinced Ken Star had the goods on Clinton
___________________________________________________

I did too...

I couldnt understand why he didnt go in for the kill...


157 posted on 07/05/2012 4:12:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Kazan
Conspiracy? Hardly. We've had a number of judges fall into the trap of using Sharia in civil cases. However, in Indiana we had a fellow who'd been the chief counsel for the prisoners at GITMO for 8 years get appointed to the Indiana Supreme Court.

What happened in one case was amazing and required the legislature to attempt to prepare the damage. Basically a domestic case came up and the Mr., who was moving out, interfered with the cops answering the Mrs.' 911 call.

Folks who thought this was an improper arrest might read up on http://www.cga.ct.gov/2002/rpt/2002-R-0891.htm which is a lengthy discussion and compendium of legislation relating to 911 calls.

Anyway, an arrest was made, a trial held, and next thing you know the guy's lawyer has this thing up at the Supreme Court. There the fellow from GITMO found himself in the majority ~ which majority necessarily IGNORED the fact the MR. had actually interfered in a 911 call ~ but, taking things in stride, the judge wrote the majority decision ~ and the Mr. won his point. He got a retrial.

The court, to arrive at the conclusion they did would necessarily have to discount the rights of the Mrs. ~ and in Islamic codes (to wit: the Sharia Law) the testimony of a woman is weighed as half that of a man.

Eventually this was approached as a 4th amendment case, the legislature passed its magic wand on whether or not you can shoot a cop in your home, and all was forgiven.

Still, the woman's right to a 911 call was clearly violated ~ which made further police involvement in dealing with that call completely lawful.

The judge is still on the job ready, willing and able to write more decisions that discount the rights of women! Only a matter of time until he decides Christians and Jews have no rights under the law.

So, yeah, a conspiracy ~ or a reality?

158 posted on 07/05/2012 4:18:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: butterdezillion


Anybody who thinks that Romney is just as bad as Obama is smoking more than ham.

No, you are correct; in your analogy Romney is not as bad as Obama. Hitler killed about 21 million people. Kai-shek only killed about 10 million people. Kai-shek is only half as bad as Hitler, right? Obama is twice as bad as Romney, right? I get it, but your argument is a relativistic one. No matter how you look at it, you are still voting *for* "bad". If we stop doing that and vote *for* "good" instead, we can actually make progress instead of sliding further down the slippery slope. As for the trouble with Romney, well that was pretty well covered in post 150. I could add to it. I could talk about Romney's fetus disposal facility affiliation, for example (click). But it's hardly worth it. If you want to vote for bad because you are afraid of worse, it's your right. I'm going to take a chance and for Goode. My conscious will be clean and I won't have to defend my vote before my Maker. May He grant me peace of mind and strength to defend myself and my loved ones against whichever baby-killing, gun-grabbing, bailout-providing, amnesty-granting, homosexual-advocating, healthcare-ransoming, stimulus-providing presidential candidate defeats Virgil Goode.


159 posted on 07/05/2012 4:19:35 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: scbison
he doesn’t [do] what we want, we primary him....

And they call US names for objecting to Mitt. You Party Over Principle guys crack me up.

160 posted on 07/05/2012 4:30:04 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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