ALERT: Chief Judge Of The United States District Court For DC Gives Leave Of Court(Lamberth & Taitz)

BirtherReport.com ^ | June 15, 2013 | Unattributed

[Seizethecarp]

Complete title: ALERT: Chief Judge Of The United States District Court For DC Gives Leave Of Court To File Motions & Documents Providing Undeniable Evidence Of Obama’s Use Of A Stolen Social Security Number...

On June 13, 2013, Judge Lamberth Chief Judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia gave leave of court to file 74 pages of motions and exhibits [embedded below] submitted by Attorney Orly Taitz in case 11-cv-402 Taitz v Astrue (Michael Astrue was the Commissioner of the Social Security at the time the case was originally filed, currently it is Carolyn W.Colvin)

This is significant, as the motions attached herein show that Barack Obama is using a stolen Social Security number of Harrison J. Bounel, born in 1890, immigrant from Russia, who is presumed to be deceased.

At the time the case was originally filed and heard, the plaintiffs did not have new information that became available recently. Such information includes recently released census data which shows Harrison J. Bounel being born in 1890, recent disclosure to the public of the 120 year SSA rule, which requires release of SS-5, Social Security original application of “extremely aged individuals”, meaning individuals of 120 years old or older without a consent of such individual and without a death certificate or any other proof of death, as well as recent report from Merlins Information Systems showing Barack Obama using both Bounel’s name and Social Security number in connection to his property at 5046 Greenwood in Chicago as late as 2009.

[M Kehoe]

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[Fantasywriter]

I thought I read that ‘Harrison Bounel’ is a name that just suddenly appeared in records, & couldn’t be traced back to original sources? (I admit I haven’t had time lately to keep up with all the details.) Is it now just a matter of reconciling ‘Harry’ to ‘Harrison’? Taitz, in her filing, said she could prove Obama was using ‘Harrison’s’ SS#, correct? So is she saying Harry & Harrison are one & the same?

[justiceseeker93]

If Bounel is a Russian immigrant, he didn’t come through Ellis Island. Their database shows no entries with the first name Harrison and the last name beginning with the letters “Bou”. There is a Harrison T. Borden (DOB 1867) and there are 33 entries for the first name Harry with a last name beginning with the letters “Bou” but only two of those begin with “Boun” (Harry B. Bounds and Harry Bounty).

There is a Harry Bounel, a Russian immigrant, listed in the 1949 US Census. He was 50 years old then, consistent with the 1890 birth year in other data bases for Harrison J. Bounel. Since the surname Bounel is extremely uncommon in the US, one can say that there is a very high probability that "Harry Bounel" of the census and "Harrison J. Bounel" of the Social Security number data bases are one and the same, and a real person, not a name invented by a fiction writer.

The fact that you can't place him at Ellis Island means that either he entered the US from some other port or possibly across land from Canada, or that the Ellis Island records are not complete.

[justiceseeker93]

Taitz, in her filing, said she could prove Obama was using ‘Harrison’s’ SS#, correct? So is she saying Harry & Harrison are one & the same?

From a statistical point of view, the probability is very high that "Harry" and Harrison" are indeed one and the same. Their years of birth are the same or very close, plus the fact is that the surname Bounel is extremely rare in the US (only three persons with that name listed in the whole national telephone listings). Also, it should be noted that the geographical location of "Harry Bounel" in 1940 is within at most 50 miles of the location in CT where the "Harrison J. Bounel" SSN was issued in 1977.

[Fantasywriter]

Thanks for that clarification.

[justiceseeker93]

Correction to post # 103: Should be 1940 census.

[LucyT]

Check out # 99 , # 103 , 104 .

Thanks, Justiceseeker93.

Btw, Sven is on the thread.

[bluecat6]

Just some referernces to related material.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/new-york-census-confirms-obama-alias.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z72nIhbIVpc

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/foia-response-confirms-obama-stole-social-security-number.html

[SvenMagnussen]

"All I am saying is that your conjectures purportedly concluding that minor Barry was issued an SSN number through a Connecticut based federal foster care contractor lack any support in documented facts and have about the same credibility as the idea that the moon is made up of blue cheese."

The documented facts are:

In the seventies, the 042 prefix on the SSN indicated the Form SS-5 was filed by a CT resident.

Obama's biography indicates he traveled as an unaccompanied minor from Indonesia to a U.S. port of entry in 1971.

Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro and born in Honolulu, HI, was enrolled in an elementary school administered by a subsidiary of the Catholic Church as an Indonesian national.

The U.S. Government defines unaccompanied minors abandoned at a port of entry as children with foreign nationality who do not have a parent or legal guardian to accompany them. The pilot or a flight attendant cannot be assigned guardianship for purposes of clearing customs. The U.S. Government considers the child to be abandoned.

In the seventies, there were two contractors with HHS to administer legal services for unaccompanied minor children abandoned at a port of entry. One of those contractors was headquartered in Connecticut.

Here's a good primer on the subject: The Changing Face of the Unaccompanied Alien Child: A Portrait of Foreign - Born Children in Federal Foster Care and How to Best Meet Their Needs

[justiceseeker93]

Let me reply to your purported "documented facts" one by one. (The statements in italics are your alleged facts.)

In the seventies, the 042 prefix on the SSN indicated the Form SS-5 was filed by a CT resident.

Agreed.

Obama's biography indicates he traveled as an unaccompanied minor from Indonesia to a U.S. port of entry in 1971.

Maybe you can post or quote the relevant passage in Obama's biography to back up that statement. Even if you are correct about what his biography said, we know that his biographies are not necessary reliable, as they contain many statements that are inconsistent with other factual evidence.

Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro and born in Honolulu, HI, was enrolled in an elementary school administered by a subsidiary of the Catholic Church as an Indonesian national..

There is no real long form Hawaiian birth certificate to prove that Barry Soetoro - or even Barack Obama II - was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. (What you probably have seen is an Indonesian school registration form which is based on info passed to the school through Lolo Soetoro and/or Stanley Ann Dunham.) Barry was not the son of Lolo, rather the (adopted?) stepson. He did begin school in Indonesia attending an elementary school administered by the Roman Catholic church (with St. Francis in its title) for two years, then switched to an Indonesian school which featured a Muslim religious curriculum. (There is no logical connection between his attendance at an elementary school in Indonesia administered by the Catholic Church between ages 6 and 8 and his CT SSN issued to him at age 15.)

The U.S. Government defines unaccompanied minors abandoned at a port of entry as children with foreign nationality who do not have a parent or legal guardian to accompany them. The pilot or a flight attendant cannot be assigned guardianship for purposes of clearing customs. The U.S. Government considers the child to be abandoned.

That may be the US Government policy today, but you have no evidence to show that the same policy was in force c. 1971. Furthermore, you have no documentation that young Barry was indeed classified as a minor with foreign nationality without parent or guardian accompanying him at that particular point, since you have no copies of government paperwork from such an incident.

In the seventies, there were two contractors with HHS to administer legal services for unaccompanied minor children abandoned at a port of entry. One of those contractors was headquartered in Connecticut.

You have no sources to cite to prove that there were any such contractors at all at that time, let alone one headquartered in Connecticut. (Incidentally, if, hypothetically, young Barry at that time was referred to a provider of social services, that provider would probably have been a Hawaii state or local agency, not a federal contractor headquartered in Connecticut.)

Here's a good primer on the subject: The Changing Face of the Unaccompanied Alien Child: A Portrait of Foreign - Born Children in Federal Foster Care and How to Best Meet Their Needs.

The paper to which you linked, published by a Catholic Church organization, has no historical references to the time frame we are discussing, and is therefore irrelevant to the issues here.

[LucyT]

Back to the thread; - check out # 110.

Thanks, Justiceseeker93.

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[4Zoltan]

"In the seventies, the 042 prefix on the SSN indicated the Form SS-5 was filed by a CT resident."

No, that is not true. from the SSA website:

"Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant's mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since."

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html

"The U.S. Government defines unaccompanied minors abandoned at a port of entry as children with foreign nationality who do not have a parent or legal guardian to accompany them."

This is from the 2002 act that you linked.

"The act defines UAC as “children who have no lawful immigration status in the United States; have not attained 18 years of age; have no parent or legal guardian in the United States; or no parent or legal guardian in the United States is available to provide care and physical custody.”

Obama had grandparents waiting for him the Honolulu. He made an earlier trip by apparently by himself the summer before he returned for good. It was for an interview at his new school, he went to the interview with his grandparents but their is no mention of his mother being there.

."Here's a good primer on the subject"

Got anything from the 1970s?

"In the seventies, there were two contractors with HHS to administer legal services for unaccompanied minor children abandoned at a port of entry."

Can you document this?

[GregNH]

Hi Greg,

I checked with our immigration services director who said that Catholic Social Services (one of our former names) did not provide services for unaccompanied refugee minors during the 1970s. She suggests that you check with Child and Family Service to see if they provided this specialized service. Great question!

Celeste Imamura
Development Coordinator
Catholic Charities Hawai‘i
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Honolulu, HI 96822
Phone: (808) 527-4821
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From: Greg
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To: Celeste Imamura
Subject: RE: Website Inquiry

Thank you very much for the reply.

I am doing some research and am being told that “Catholic Family Services” would have been the organization who would take custody of an unaccompanied minor arriving from a foreign shore. The time frame was about the 1970’s. Is this something that you would have been involved in?

Greg

From: Celeste Imamura [mailto:celeste@catholiccharitieshawaii.org]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 8:15 PM
To: Greg
Subject: Website Inquiry

Aloha Greg,

Thank you for your email.

Catholic Charities Hawai‘i was chartered in Hawai‘i in 1947. There’s also some history on our website at: http://www.catholiccharitieshawaii.org/site/371/about_us.aspx

Thanks again for your message.

Celeste Imamura
Development Coordinator
Catholic Charities Hawai‘i
1822 Keeaumoku Street
Honolulu, HI 96822
Phone: (808) 527-4821

[4Zoltan]

How about the Catholic Charities of Connecticut?

[GregNH]

I got in a debate w/sven back in April over this and the outcome was him saying that there were the same types of contractors in HI, so I checked. I have not checked with CT, feel free though...lol

[SvenMagnussen]

"Incidentally, if, hypothetically, young Barry at that time was referred to a provider of social services, that provider would probably have been a Hawaii state or local agency, not a federal contractor headquartered in Connecticut."

If Barry was a U.S. Citizen in 1971 and he arrived as an unaccompanied minor at a port of entry, Customs and Border Patrol would have called local law enforcement to report an abandoned child. Local law enforcement would have referred the case a state welfare agency.

Children with foreign nationality abandoned at port of entry are taken into Federal custody and referred to HHS, which uses contractors to implement their Federal foster care programs. Obama would not have been in the Federal foster care system if he were a U.S. Citizen in 1971.

[GregNH]

Found it http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2999448/posts?page=248#248

[SvenMagnussen]

"I got in a debate w/sven back in April over this and the outcome was him saying that there were the same types of contractors in HI, so I checked. I have not checked with CT, feel free though...lol"

In the seventies, there were two contractors with HHS to administer the Federal foster care program.

Currently, there are many contractors with HHS to administer the Federal foster care program. Furthermore, Obama has changed the policy on citizenship with regard to the Federal foster care program. In the seventies, only minors with foreign nationality could participate in the program. Today, any child, regardless of citizenship, can participate in the Federal foster care program if they meet certain criteria.

[GregNH]

From the link in the post 117.
In 1971, there were only two contractors with HHS to administer the Federal Foster Care program. The two contractors were Catholic Social Services of Connecticut and Lutheran Social Services. Lutheran Social Services primarily focused on Ports of Entry along the East Coast in 1971. Catholic Social Services of Connecticut administered the program throughout the U.S. Consequently, Catholic Social Services of Connecticut was the only provider of the Federal Foster Care program to take custody of an unaccompanied minor with foreign nationality at a Port of Entry in Hawaii.

[Brown Deer]

That must be little Barry 0bama in the bottom left of the right picture. :-)

Shortly after he arrived, they sent him off to Camp Pelican in Connecticut. He got in trouble for stealing the other children's ice cream. So, they got him a Social Security number and sent him back to Hawaii so that he could work at Baskin Robbins. That's when he found out that he could no longer get the same high from ice cream and started smoking pakalolo and hanging out with the Choom gang.