Team Arpaio: We Have Two 1961 Hawaiian Birth Certificates That List Negro Not African

Mike Zullo ^ | 6-20-2013

[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

Sheriff Arpaio's lead investigator Mike Zullo just concluded a new interview this afternoon at 3:30pm central time and revealed that he will get Congressional movement on Obama's fraudulent documents after their summer break. He also revealed that they have in possession two Hawaiian birth certificates from 1961 that reveal that the term 'Negro' was used for black babies instead of the term 'African'.

[Fred Nerks]

I have an interesting theory about that...

MAE = MEAN ABSOLUTE ERROR.

Go back to the Virginia Sunahara story, born August 4, died August 5. On the 29th of August, her death certificate shows an amended birth certificate for Virginia, amended apparently to correct her name from Tomyio (the name of her father) to Virginia...and the certificate number reflects the date of the amendment...it's 400+ births past her actual date of birth:

Now, tell me, what happened to the original certificate for Tomiyo Sunahara? Was that number cancelled? Is there a blank where that entry should be? YOU DON'T AMEND SOMETHING THAT NEVER EXISTED...IMO.

And what would happen if the birth listed on the index for Barack Hussein Obama 11 fell within the 1960-1964 period of the index, but the actual date of birth was in January?

The index would then print out TWO entries for the same name...and we can't have that...so one of them becomes a MEAN ABSOLUTE ERROR.

[Fred Nerks]

See #301. MAE appears to be a Mean Absoloute Error, not a name.

[Fred Nerks]

you see...when Mary said she babysat when her own daughter who was born in July 1959 was 18 months of age, that pointed to an event in January 1961. Then the transcript came to light...and regardless if it’s accepted as genuine or not, Mary had a problem. During a subsequent interview, she adjusted her recollection, and said that the child she babysat was 7 months of age.
That then fitted with the transcript, which was dated from September.
However, she’s not very bright, or she simply WAS NOT LYING!- because a seven month old in late August or September 1961, still retains a birthdate in January 1961.

Anna Obama was in Seattle early enough in 1961 or late 1960 to be included in the 1961 directory. With a child that was seven months of age in August, 1961.

Does anyone still believe that Anna Obama was Stanley Ann Dunham? Mary named the woman she baby-sat for, ANNA. MARY NEVER NAMED THE CHILD when she was contacted.

Is it becoming clearer now that the child born to Ann/Anna Obama in Hawaii was probably born in January and therefor bears no relationship to zero?

[WildHighlander57]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_absolute_error

One definition of MAE (Mean Absolute Error).

[Fred Nerks]

I’m no Einstein, but I take M.A.E. to mean - DON’T COUNT -

But as there are no totals given, nor are there any dates shown for the listed birth names, your guess is as good as mine. I have grave doubts there was ever a baby born with the name of MAE.

Duplicates don’t count as births.

[little jeremiah]

So we ALREADY have evidence of big-time crimes being committed by government officials to cover up for Obama. The evidence already exists; it’s too late for Obama to put the genie back in the bottle.

We just can’t find anybody in the media, law enforcement, courts, or state or federal legislatures who will do anything about it. And THAT is the real story of Obama’s eligibility issue.

When we find out why Judge Surick allowed somebody else to write his decision for him, we will probably be well on our way to understanding why EVERYBODY within government, media, law enforcement, and the courts has bent over backwards - even to the point of creating forgeries and breaking laws - to cover for Obama. When we know what threat they used on all these judges, etc it will tell us who is holding America’s entire infrastructure hostage today.

That's it in a nutshell.

[WildHighlander57]

also replying to FredNerks' #305... Another section of butterdezillion's post that I quoted upthread mentions a duplicate entry: ".....If we looked at what has happened to the Hawaii birth record for Mae Obado we would probably find that she had an original record that was entered into the system whenever they converted to electronic database. We would probably find that a duplicate record was created for her sometime maybe in March of 2010. The database immediately marked it as a duplicate so that the entry for that became “Obado, Duplicate Mae” - unbeknownst to whoever created the duplicate. Whoever created the duplicate immediately changed Mae Obado’s name to Barack Hussein Obama II, not realizing that the record he/she had just created was NOT still called “Obado, Mae” in the database but was now “Obado, DUPLICATE Mae” so what was changed to Obama was the ORIGINAL record for Mae Obado, leaving for Mae Obado only the “Obado, DUPLICATE Mae” record. The end result is that a printout would show “Obado, Duplicate Mae”, followed next in line by “Obama, Barack Hussein II” - since the original record for Mae Obado was altered to say Barack Hussein Obama II. The duplicate record for Mae Obado when there isn’t any original record for Mae Obado gives away that the original record was altered after a duplicate was created for her. And that’s exactly what the HDOH had in their (supposed) 1960-64 birth index book as of sometime after March, 2010. (This kind of sloppy work shows up in regards to the alleged birth announcements for Obama as well.) If we looked up the history for the BC# that Obama has on the Factcheck COLB we would probably find that it originated in 1961 under a different name. We would be able to find out who that BC# originally belonged to. We would be able to find out when the name associated with that BC# was altered and by whom. ...." Looks like whoever was messing with/entering the data fatfingered something in that area and the computer dutifully followed its algorithm and said: DUPLICATE Hmmm, I just noticed something: The third name down from OBAMA II, BARACK HUSSEIN is another MAE, this one is OBAR, CORINNA MAE. No DUPLICATE above or below it.

[WildHighlander57]

FredNerks, (butterdezillion FYI; more HDOH shenanigans)

Right, they don’t count as births, but they sure do count as tampering :0

More squirrelly stuff from HDOH, posted on an amazon discussion:

http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Proven-Natural-Born-Citizen-part/forum/Fx3O0GUS5OOQ7GV/Tx2CAJ2C9LQPJBQ/13?_encoding=UTF8&asin=1936488299

“Jack H. Osborne says:

Birth certificate blues is the song!

Summary: In 1981 when the vital records were being converted to electronic, it was decided that the handwritten paper index of births was to be retained permanently.

When asked for the copy of the handwritten 1961 birth index the HDOH responded that there is no handwritten index but the requestor could get a computer printout of 1961 births for $98.75.

The requestor sent in a request with a money order for $98.75; the same day as the money was in the HDOH office HDOH spokesperson, Janice Okubo, gave an interview saying the HDOH could disclose the 1961 birth index for $98.75 but nobody had sent in the money.

The HDOH then sent the money order back, claimed they had never received a request for the computer-generated index at all, and now says they CANNOT print out a 1961 birth index.

The birth index is of particular interest because in March of 2010 Obama’s name was not in the 1960-64 birth index book at the HDOH office but by June 2010 the HDOH presented a birth index book they claimed was the 1960-64 index which had Obama’s name in it. The name above Obama’s is “Obado, Duplicate Mae”.

If there was a duplicate record for Mae Obado the other record for her should have been right where Obama’s name is now posted.

If Abercrombie is correct and there is no birth certificate for Obama at the HDOH, the birth index in March was correct, the birth index in June was manipulated to insert Obama’s name falsely, and the HDOH was most probably refusing to show the genuine computer printout because they knew it would not have Obama’s name in it.

Ah, the beauty of deception by the government!”

[Fred Nerks]

...I just noticed something: The third name down from OBAMA II, BARACK HUSSEIN is another MAE, this one is OBAR, CORINNA MAE. No DUPLICATE above or below it.

OBAR CORINNA MAE, if written in upper and lower case letters, would read:

Obar, Corinna Mae.

I guess that's the 'beauty' of printing out the index all in capitals. It makes MAE (Mean Absolute Error) look like a FIRST NAME.

[butterdezillion]

After I posted that, somebody said that the times on the Surick fax were from that fax being forwarded from BERG’s office to whoever posted it online. I don’t know enough about how faxes are forwarded and how the times appear when faxes are sent and received to know which claims are true so on my blog I said I’d put that claim on hold. I still don’t know which claim is true. Maybe somebody here can help me sort that out.

However, finding out that the NSA has been spying on judges, justices, and Congress means that somebody had potential extortion material, and Surick did do a quick, irreversible 180-degree turnaround on this decision - as did Chief Justice Roberts on Obamacare. Someone with access to sources has told me that Bush’s administration was complicit in the media threats by Emanuel and Axelrod. He says they were afraid of race riots. Maybe. A military friend told me at the time that riots would only be in the large cities, if at all, and the National Guard would be well-equipped and trained to stop them if necessary. The threat of riots does fit the same veiled threats made by Schumer regarding amnesty, and it fits the mob attacks we were seeing so much of around the time of Trayvon’s death.

Maybe they were afraid of another run on the bank.

Either way, if they thought it was a national security risk I don’t doubt that they would have spied on judges for extortion material and used it. That’s what the whistleblowers seem to be saying - that this crap started under Bush and Obama has made it worse.

[butterdezillion]

We don’t know if the birth certificate was amended. We do know that the death certificate is amended. When the researcher spoke with Virginia’s mom she was told that the BC had Virginia’s name on it; they didn’t do an amendment. The most likely thing is that the coroner didn’t have the BC to look at and put a female version of the father’s name on the death certificate, and when they were processing it and had to match it up with the BC they found the discrepancy between the names and corrected the death certificate.

If they did amend the name on the BC it would have been done just like the amendment on the death certificate - with a line drawn through the incorrect entry and a notation of the correct information. The COLB would also have noted that correction. Since it didn’t, and since Virginia’s mom said the BC was under Virginia’s name, it seems like it was just the death certificate that was screwed up and amended. There was no Sunahara birth reported in the newspapers in either July or August - not that the announcement would have had the child’s name anyway.

And even a new BC is always given the same BC# as the original had - except when the new BC is created at the request of law enforcement.

The birth indices have cases where there are 2 listings for what is obviously just one individual - one listing with the middle name spelled out and another with just an initial, for instance. The death index does not list both Tomiyo and Virginia under the Sunahara name, so the printouts aren’t making separate entries to show the correct and incorrect versions. These are presumably 2 distinct records made for the same person - with different BC#’s. To get “duplicate” there would presumably have to be a record where the identical numbers were used with the identical name. The system would have to allow such a thing to accommodate new BC’s created for gender reassignment - which would have the same name and BC#. But only one is supposed to be valid at a time. And that issue is supposed to be confidential so that nothing would seem different in public documents such as a birth index.

I was told that there are other instances where “Duplicate” shows up. Maybe it’s a flaw in their system that messes up gender reassignment confidentiality, or maybe they have a manual way for workers to mark the error of a duplicate record - but that shouldn’t end up deleting the original record. Seems like there should be a Mae Obado and a (duplicate) Mae Obado in that case.

I wonder what would happen if a person requested birth index data for Mae Obado. Their birth index has no Mae Obado listed, so would they give index data for her? If they did it would indicate that their computer records are different than their computer printout.

[Ladysforest]

I think Mrs. Sunahara said that at the time of Virginia’s death they had not settled on a name. When they had, they contacted the DOH, which occurred prior to the BC being generated. So, the death certificate, which had to be generated within three days, had Tomiyo - but the original BC had Virigina as a result of the Sunaharas contacting the DOH once they had decided on a name.

As to a birth announcement - I do not recall if within the two month batch of newspaper copies I have, ANY children who died within a day or so of birth had a birth announcement as well as a death notice. I never looked for that sort of thing aside from Virginias.

[Ladysforest]

“Obar, Corinna Mae”

No, Mae would not be the first name when written this way. Mae would be the middle name. Mae was a pretty common middle name.

[butterdezillion]

Thanks for the info. The BC would have originally left the first name blank, then. And they had 30 days to get a firat name without having to amend anything.

Theresa Prive had a birth announcement. Ray Piiohla, Jr is another one, I think. When I have time, maybe I can check the others.

[Ladysforest]

Did they live for more than one day? I can understand infants that lived for, say, a week - but for just one day it seems odd.

The DOH had discretion to omit the birth announcements of unwed mothers, which seems to have been the norm at the time. I wonder what the norm was for babies that lived only briefly? I imagine that the parents were given options.

If I have time today I will review the interview with Virginias mother.

[Jude in WV]

I have a picture I downloaded of DOH birth list that does NOT have Obama on it.
The list goes from OBA, Yuriyo (Newberry, Yuriyo Mrs.) to the next name of OBANA, Yoshihiro.

I don’t remember how to load a photo here. I will try.

[Jude in WV]

http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2011/01/nobody-of-any-of-oba-husseins-possible.html

This is a link to the photo of the index page without Obama listed.

[Fred Nerks]

ok, I should have written 'in upper case and lower case letters Mae would obviously be part of the first names of the child' whereas, MAE in upper case letters could designate MAE Mean Absoloute Error.

[Fred Nerks]

...I wonder what would happen if a person requested birth index data for Mae Obado. Their birth index has no Mae Obado listed, so would they give index data for her? If they did it would indicate that their computer records are different than their computer printout.

The way I see it, there never was a MAE OBADO. There was only ever a duplicate entry that was then annulled by the ambiguous MAE and that got rid of an entry they didn't want you to see.

You can't have TWO Barack Hussein Obama 11 showing up on an alphabatical listing, one the child born in January and the other entry with the same name that took the place of Virginia's entry. And btw, there must have been a BC for Virginia, because she has a death certificate. I think you have to be born before you can die?

[Fred Nerks]

...I think Mrs. Sunahara said that at the time of Virginia’s death they had not settled on a name. When they had, they contacted the DOH, which occurred prior to the BC being generated.

And I'm thinking that for the death certificate to be issued in the name of Tomiyo, the birth certificate had been raised in that name already.

Could that be why the amendement to the name Virginia wasn't made until two weeks later...when they gave her a certificate number 400+ beyond her birth date?

If that birth certificate existed in the name of Tomiyo Sunahara, and it was raised on the day of her birth, (which would have made her number very close to the forgery we are familiar with...) what happened to that entry? Is it blank? Or does it say OBADO DUPLICATE MAE?

151 - 61 - 10611 Mean Absolute Error.