Posted on 07/19/2013 9:25:49 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
A fogbow member has gone full throttle at trying to destroy the career of Reed Hayes, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Cold Case Posse forensic document expert. Mr. Hayes wrote a 40 page report documenting his evidence that backs up the Cold Case Posse's investigation proving Obama's birth certificate is a 100% forgery. The fact that the fogbow member would go to such lengths to write a letter to the President of the NADE (National Association Of Document Examiners) complaining about Reed Hayes work ethics shows desperation to destroy his career.
This individual who did this asked Reed Hayes in a email to give him his 40 page reports findings. Hayes politely turned him down in a response email. Soon after, this fogbow member started attacking Reed Hayes credibility along with his other fogbow members on his radio program. They started calling him a quack on message boards. Reed Hayes has impeccable credentials that no fogbow member can match. This attempt to discredit Reed Hayes and ruin his career show that these people lack moral values, American pride and patriotism, and will do anything to protect Obama's ineligibility to be president.
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Verna Lee personally told Zullo how the birth documents were numbered. I would take her word.
“But why would someone filling out a birth cert in Hawaii use that term.”
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I believe that was explained more than once up above.
The form would have been filled out using whatever term the child’s father used to describe his own race, and it would have been natural in 1961 for a Kenyan to denote his race as “African.”
Can you provide a link to such a statement by Zullo saying he personally talked to Lee. IIRC, Corsi talked to Lee by phone and recorded the conversation. he then played the recording for Zullo.
The recording or a transcript of it have never been made public. For all we know they may have misinterpreted what she said. Just like the federal codes and the statement about the Bennett article and the left justified margin of Hawaiian BCs.
” it would have been natural in 1961 for a Kenyan to denote his race as “African.”
I can understand this part of it, but I don’t see why an American Nurse/Doctor would fill out the cert with a term not used on US certs. The form says “race”not “Nationality.” He was obviously a Negro, and that’s the standard term that we used back then. Why would they break from the US standard? Oh well,,,,,
“I don’t see why an American Nurse/Doctor would fill out the cert with a term not used on US certs”
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I think that part has been explained several times. It was the practice to use the same term the father used. It was not the province of nurses or doctors to change the father’s description to conform to their own ideas of correct usage or anything else. Their job was simply to ask the parents to state their own race and to write down what they said.
Im my opinion the “Africa” issue is unverifiable and cannot be used as a significant factor in declaring the BC to be a forgery.
“You can’t believe a thing they say. I have a bad feeling about this.”
Try opening the pdf of Obama’s 2010 taxes.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/POTUS_taxes.pdf
Right click anywhere on the tax return and then select document properties.
You should see that the return was created on 4/15/2011 and modified on 4/18/2011 and that the PDF Producer was a Xerox WorkCentre 7655 and the version number is 1.5.
If you have access to Adobe Illustrator open one of the pages of the taxes file. It will have layers that can be moved around on the page. There are letter pairs that are identical pixel for pixel (the “i” in “individual” in the first line). Then look at the first “0” in “1040”, it consist of larger pixels than the most of the text. The file also opens in landscape orientation.
If you have access to a Mac, open the taxes file in Preview, from the menu select file/print/save as pdf. Now open that in Adobe Reader. Right click anywhere on the tax form and select document properties. The new information should be that the PDF Producer is Mac OS X 10.x.x QuartzPDFContext. And the version number is 1.3.
Now open the file created by Preview in Illustrator. It will be in portrait orientation and all the layers will show that they have been rotated 90 degrees.
That’s very similar to what can be seen in the lfbc pdf.
Please use a little common sense here.
I am a woman who had two babies. I gave the info and signed the form. My husband wasn’t even present when they came in and asked me.
Ann was reportedly very intelligent. IMO, she would have known the difference between race and nationality.
The employees in vital statistics are trained to use specific terms. I’ve worked in government offices that follow guidelines from higher ups.
It is so frustrating to read these posts where folks go so far out on a limb trying to find ways to make me think this BC situation is normal. Any idiot can see it is not. This insults my intelligence.
Ted Cruz - 2016
“The employees in vital statistics are trained to use specific terms.’
Not in Texas.
http://blog.angryasianman.com/2010/08/race-yellow.html
“I’ve worked in government offices that follow guidelines from higher ups.”
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No doubt about it. And a Hawaiian judge recently pointed out (http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/2544/Hawaii-lawsuit-challenges-use-of-racial-identification-on-birth-certificates.aspx) “that the race printed on a Hawaiian birth certificate is self-reported by the child’s parents and that the Department of Health performs no verification of its accuracy.”
The “guidelines from higher ups” were followed. They provide for the father’s race to be recorded just as he states it.
Perhaps you could avoid having your intelligence insulted by doing a little fact-checking.
We’re talking about 1961 here.
“Try opening the pdf of Obama’s 2010 taxes.”
The Xerox WorkCentre 7655 pdf production process might explain the layers, which are otherwise unexplainable if you believe Obama’s people have half a brain. The document was released by Obama’s lawyers. They would never make a mistake like this. But I can see how a White House flunky could put the lawyer-produced LFBC into the work center to make a pdf and create a problem for everyone.
But this does not explain the anomalies in the actual document, the so-called LFBC, to begin with. Those are at issue as well.
If the Xerox WorkCentre is what actually created the layers, then that clears the air on layers. And possibly on haloing and pixellation too.
But the actual document forgery elements have not been explained.
This whole WorkCenter pdf production issue could clear the air for everyone.
The object is to find the truth of the matter.
“This ‘story’ seems to cover some of the issues with the document (not saying it is a true story.) Lets see a scan of a similar document, like a cancelled check, produced through this process.
It does not cover: tab/kerning/text color/alignment/typeface/white halo/coding/color shift/pixelation scale issues.”
I agree. If this story is true it might actually help clear the air so we can get to the actual forgery issues.
Kerning:
http://paraleaglenm.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/debunking-birth-certificate-forgery-claims/
“The final ’ty’ was typed with index fingers of the left and right hand in a quick succession, straining the spring tension indexing of the platen . . . recreating the expert’s ‘kerning’ in a mechanical typewriter . . . something he said was impossible. Using ‘hunt & peck’ fingers instead of touch-typing created an exaggerated ‘kerning’ effect of 4 pixels overlapping.”
I recall that the libs initially had a different reason for all the LFBC anomalies and even the layers. They said they were the effects of OCR and that it explained everything. That explanation didn’t fly.
This one doesn’t either.
This is a perfect example of what I posted about.
You give me a link to a 2009 lawsuit when we are discussing a 1961 BC which was prepared back when people were still following the law and government guidelines, unlike today.
Then you end with an insulting remark about my not researching.
sigh......................
You know, I went back through your entire posting history all the way back to your July 17, 2009 signup. All of your posts defend "Obama"'s eligibility and the veracity of the "documents" put out to demonstrate his nativity story. Every.Single.One.
AM- This person, with the posting history I just described, just happens to show up on this thread about Fogbower activity, once again defending "Obama" "documents. I believe them to be a Fogbower, and quite possibly PJ himself. Does FR still Zot condescending, rude Fogbowers? If so, then
IBTZ
Oh, LOOK! A squirrel!
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