Pope Francis: The Destroyer prophesied by Saint Francis?

La Salette Journey ^ | September 15, 2014 | Paul Melanson

[cleghornboy]

Irish Central reports:

"Pope Francis continues to amaze. He married 20 couples on Sunday in Rome several of them “living in sin” having had children outside marriage.

'The people getting married on Sunday are couples like many others,' the diocese of Rome said in a statement. 'Some already live together, some already have children.'

The Pope said marriage was 'real life, not some TV show.'

In marrying them he he kicked away one of the bulwark beliefs of the sex-obsessed hierarchy in the old church, the belief that sex outside marriage was a heinous and immoral act.

All of us Irish Catholics grew up with that unfortunate characterization of those who did not conform to the absolute orthodoxy of only having sex and children within marriage.

All others were fallen sinners. This led to some mighty hypocrisy on all sides as fallen men and women were considered far below the virtuous few – most of whom on closer scrutiny were not such virtuous souls.

The scandal around the unfortunate Bishop Eamon Casey, when it was revealed he had a child, was subsequently utterly dwarfed by the pedophile crisis that hit the church in Ireland like a hurricane. It seems likely that contraception could be next. Francis is nothing but a realist, and over 90 percent of Catholic couples use contraception.

Francis is trying to make the church more inclusive, to absorb those who have been driven away by right wing ideology bordering on the dictatorial...

[I want the USA back]

And the fanatical headchoppers? they aren’t living in sin?

[God luvs America]

“37And there was a woman in the city who was a sinner; and when she learned that He was reclining at the table in the Pharisee’s house, she brought an alabaster vial of perfume, 38 and standing behind Him at His feet, weeping, she began to wet His feet with her tears, and kept wiping them with the hair of her head, and kissing His feet and anointing them with the perfume. 39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited Him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet He would know who and what sort of person this woman is who is touching Him, that she is a sinner.”

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I’m not insinuating that Pope Francis is Christ but if Christ is to be the example who are we to judge others that follow His example?

[CA Conservative]

I am not Catholic, but if you have a couple living together outside of marriage, wouldn’t you WANT them to get married instead of continuing to just live together - especially if children are involved? I am not sure that would be considered “progressive”, as some are suggesting.

[sauropod]

Francis is trying to make the church more inclusive, to absorb those who have been driven away by right wing ideology bordering on the dictatorial...

To LaSalette Blog: Bite me!

[Cry if I Wanna]

Why don’t they get away from all of that annulment nonsense? Saying that for some reason a marriage is “null and void.” I know a gal who was married for 15 years and had three kids from their marriage. Her husband left her and requested an annulment so he could remarry. She fought it and he withdrew because continuing would have been too expensive. Basically he was trying to say that their marriage was not real, which would have meant that she was living in sin. Give me a break.

[Alex Murphy]

Father Malachi Martin, a Jesuit scholar who served as a member of the Vatican Advisory Council as well as personal secretary to Cardinal Augustin Bea, was known to be in possession of detailed information pertaining to the Third Secret of Fatima, which he said addressed a plan to install the False Prophet during a "Final Conclave."

Is it just a coincidence that the current Pontiff took the name Francis - after Saint Francis of Assisi - when the same saint was given a prophecy which enabled him to prophesy that, "...a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavor to draw many into error and death.....some preachers will keep silence about the truth, an others will trample it under foot and deny it....for in those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a destroyer."

This prophecy of an anti-pope seizing papal authority and the faithful remnant of the Church being subjected to persecution like never before in history has been spoken of by many seers.....As the Apostasy continues to spread, hatred for the Ten Commandments will intensify.

Ping!

[OpusatFR]

“In marrying them he he kicked away one of the bulwark beliefs of the sex-obsessed hierarchy in the old church, the belief that sex outside marriage was a heinous and immoral act.”

Wow. Just think of all those pregnant, white veiled youngsters who got married at the altar all those years ago.

Look, there’s penance and I’m pretty sure they had to repent of their cohabitation.

I know I did. It’s amazing how many people are sinless and can cast doubts on others’ actions.

[OpusatFR]

“Basically he was trying to say that their marriage was not real, which would have meant that she was living in sin. Give me a break.”

Why don’t you actually find out what an annulment means rather than post a completely false conjecture.

[utahagen]

I agree with you, except that to be married by the POPE — as opposed to an ordinary priest, away from the press — is a special honor — not officially, but certainly in the eyes of the world — and to give such an honor to people who have been shacking up sends a message that overshadows the one that you and I agree upon: that the couple should get married.

[Resolute Conservative]

Yet the likes of Nancy Piglosi, Kennedy’s, and other abortionists still are welcomed with open arms.

[OpusatFR]

"Yet the likes of Nancy Piglosi," Not to my knowledge. "Cardinal Burke: Nancy Pelosi ‘must’ be denied Communion    LOUISVILLE, KY, Sept. 20, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a wide-ranging interview, Cardinal Raymond Burke has issued an emphatic call for pro-abortion Catholic politicians like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to be denied Communion. The cardinal also spoke about the rapid advance of the homosexual agenda, the decline in catechesis that, he says, has crippled the Church’s response to pressing moral issues of the day, and the growing danger of Christian persecution under an increasingly “totalitarian” government. The cardinal, who heads the Vatican’s Apostolic Signatura and is America’s most senior prelate, made the comments in an interview published earlier this month by The Catholic Servant, a Minneapolis-based newspaper, and republished by The Wanderer. Asked about Pelosi, he said, “Certainly this is a case when Canon 915 must be applied.” http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-burke-nancy-pelosi-must-be-denied-communion

[SpirituTuo]

It is very sad to see how this writer thinks. He presumes that the 20 couples who were married were all in a state of mortal sin, and the Pope was condoning that. I don’t see how the writer can logically come to that conclusion.

Secondly, papal HR tea-leaf readers would be better served by focusing their attention less on curial politics, and more on their own souls.

Finally, the fear-mongering regarding (former) Fr. Martin and his prophesy is very near to scandalous. For the record, “In 1965, Mr. Martin received a dispensation from all privileges and obligations deriving from his vows as a Jesuit and from priestly ordination’ (Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, 25 June 1997, Prot. N. 04300/65)”

So let us remember the promise Jesus made to St. Peter, that gates of hell will not prevail against His church.

[Gay State Conservative]

Who’s to say that he didn’t require them to go to Confession before he’d marry them?

[defconw]

Interesting. The news never seems to give the particulars. If a couple cohabiting that had children and had never been married to anyone else, then I really don't see this as a problem. They will have confessed the sin and repented and married. Thus showing their children the right way to go.

If people should had annulments before they got married, I have a problem with that.

[buwaya]

Marrying couples living in sin used to be a standard part of a parish priests job.
Most Catholic countries never really had good coverage of clergy in rural areas. The Philippines, for instance, was fairly typical, though it actually had better clergy coverage than usual (much better than most of Latin America).
A priest would normally ride a circuit across the parish visiting the various villages, performing all the necessary rites at each place. This included solemnizing “common law” marriages of the rural people.
It is rather odd for a Pope to be doing this.

[Segovia]

AMEN!

[Ouchthatonehurt]

I take the Groucho Marx approach to my Catholic faith:
“I DON’T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY Church THAT WILL ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE ME AS A MEMBER.”

Which is to say, I don’t want to belong to a Church of sinners, but I am over-joyed to belong to a Church that is made up of sinners who are working to be saints.

If a couple is unwilling to comprehend the sacramental nature of marriage and to prepare themselves in such a way as to receive that sanctifying grace, then no, they should not be married.

[defconw]

"St. Francis of Assisi (d. 1226): There will be an uncanonically elected pope who will cause a great Schism, there will be divers thoughts preached which will cause many, even those in the different orders, to doubt, yea even agree with those heretics which will cause My order to divide, then will there be such universal dissentions and persecutions that if these days were not shortened even the elect would be lost"

For your consideration. There have been others as well.