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US election 2016: statistician Nate Silver's big Donald Trump mistake
The Sydney | October 31, 2016 | Margaret Sullivan

Posted on 10/30/2016 6:18:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/us-election-2016-statistician-nate-silvers-big-donald-trump-mistake-20161030-gseaye.html


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: 538; natesilver; silver
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1 posted on 10/30/2016 6:18:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Link to article: http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/us-election-2016-statistician-nate-silvers-big-donald-trump-mistake-20161030-gseaye.html


2 posted on 10/30/2016 6:19:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stopped clock. Not even a gold one.


3 posted on 10/30/2016 6:25:30 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nate Silver has been wrong about Donald Trump since June 2015. That's over sixteen months now of him making a fool of himself about Trump's chances.

4 posted on 10/30/2016 6:33:44 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Once in a while Black Swan hits and upend all the previous thinking. System is undergoing critical change and major reconfiguration. If there is a model to incorporate this kind of sudden shift, it would not be a traditional model, which is based on the assumption that past trend will hold in future, too. To be precise, it is the past trend since the last major disruption which could be many decades ago.
5 posted on 10/30/2016 6:35:59 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why bother posting anything by him? He admitted way back that if Trump won the GOP nomination, that all of his polling methods were wrong.


6 posted on 10/30/2016 6:36:32 PM PDT by eekitsagreek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read the entire article. I like the reset map.


7 posted on 10/30/2016 6:37:44 PM PDT by onyx (VOTE FOR TRUMP or DON'T VOTE AT ALL! DONATE MONTHLY or JOIN CLUB 300!)
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Nate silver is going to be to the Democrats in 2016 what Dick Morris was to the Republicans in 2012. Big difference is dick’s predictions were not until the day of the election. Nate’s predictions have been All year.


8 posted on 10/30/2016 6:39:16 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two mistakes, not just one. The first is the one mentioned, introducing his own biases into the mix.

The second, more important one is basing his predictions on technical analysis (in financial terms) rather than fundamentals. Lots of people bet themselves into the poorhouse when they predicted that the financially sound status of the vacuum tube couldn’t possibly be brought down by a tiny little transistor marketed by a lowly Japanese company. The transistor, however, had the fundamentals on its side, as demonstrated by the decades of dominance of Moore’s Law.

In this election, the fundamentals outweigh the technical analysis. People want change, both in policy and in tone. They’ve had enough of the same old promises, the same old results, and the same old lies from the same old liars.

It took a marketing expert by the name of Donald J. Trump to see the time was right for a brand-new — and hugely improved — presidential product, and a brave hero — in the same person — to take it to market.


9 posted on 10/30/2016 6:40:47 PM PDT by AZLiberty (A is no longer A, but a pull-down menu.)
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To: eekitsagreek

It isn’t “by” him, it’s about him.


10 posted on 10/30/2016 6:43:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Trump20162020

“We’re giant nerds,” explained Priyanka Mitra-Hahn, a PhD student from Brooklyn, when asked why she, HER wife and a friend came out to last week’s sold-out event.

Lesbians for Hillary Clinton? What a surprise.

Silver has the state of Georgia as a toss up. LOL!


11 posted on 10/30/2016 6:45:21 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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Nate Silver missed big-time on the 2014 election.

When will he ever learn?


12 posted on 10/30/2016 6:50:59 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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And that "black swan" is Anthony Weiner.

And now, Huma Abedin now truly regrets not dumping him years ago, because Weiner is about bring the entire Clinton campaign crashing down. The producers of the documentary movie Weiner will have to write a new ending--an ending nobody on the Left wants to contemplate!

13 posted on 10/30/2016 6:52:47 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: MNDude

I saw Dick Morris interviewed a while before election day saying that Obama was going to lose by a large amount.


14 posted on 10/30/2016 6:58:49 PM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Institute a National Voter ID card before 2018.

NO MOTER VOTER

You have to come down to the registrars office and apply for a card and you only get one if you can prove you are a citizen.

MOTOR VOTER WAS STARTED BY KROOKED KLINTOON

There is no way we can allow degenerates, illegal aliens, and imbeciles to vote or engage in voter fraud in support of democrat criminals ever again.


15 posted on 10/30/2016 7:05:02 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: eekitsagreek

“Why bother posting anything by him? He admitted way back that if Trump won the GOP nomination, that all of his polling methods were wrong.”

Nate Silver is not a pollster.


16 posted on 10/30/2016 7:17:54 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Rome2000
Correct. I would institute the following:

1. You MUST show a Real ID compliant identification card when you register to vote and when you vote.
2. No more advance voting, which mean no more early voting, absentee ballots or mail-in voting. Voting will be done on Election Day, which is a Federal holiday to ensure all voters have the time to reach the voting booth between 6 am and 9 pm local time.
3. Ballots will be mark-sense paper ballots filled out in either permanent ink pen or a small permanent ink stamp. Such ballots should be both machine and hand-count readable.

17 posted on 10/30/2016 7:23:33 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

VIDEO OF LIVE TV SCREEN.

Dem Political Analyst Doug Schoen Pulls Support From Clinton: “Deeply Concerned About Constitutional Crisis”

He is more of an old line Democrat, not a progressive, and had worked on Clinton’s 2008 campaign.

Nickarama | October 30, 2016 9:30 pm | 131 Comments

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18 posted on 10/30/2016 7:25:47 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I caught that too. It’s where I stopped reading it.


19 posted on 10/30/2016 7:26:02 PM PDT by redfreedom
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“Nate Silver missed big-time on the 2014 election.
When will he ever learn?”

While we still have to see how things unfold this year, I’d put money on Silver being a disaster result-wise. I need to remember to take a snapshot of his site today as I’ll bet he will start to tighten things up ridiculously this week.

I used to think Freepers that thought the Obama camp was feeding him internal polling data were a bit silly ... not anymore. Internal polling data costs a ton of money ... however, I’m sure they found the risk acceptable to give data to him. Hillary seems as paranoid as Hitler, so there’s no way he’s been getting help this year. If he was, he was ignoring that data.

He and Krugman have achieved sainthood on the left. Nate is going to lose his on Nov 9 the way things look. After 18 months of Trump, I *really* hope Krugman looks like a blithering idiot to everyone outside of Free Republic.

Nate should have stuck to baseball predictions. He is fairly good at that :-).


20 posted on 10/30/2016 7:26:53 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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